@cgwalters: re "speaking of dependency loops and scripts"

yes the current state of affairs with setup and filesystem is insane. Those 
packages should be combined, and the dependency that drags in filesystem (or 
%setup if you prefer that name) as a prerequisite of glibc should be cast into 
stone.

The original intent was to use setup to populate /etc/passwd before filesystem 
in a chroot so that unusual ownership (I.e. not root:root) of directories/files 
might be undertaken without a warning message from rpm.

The issues involved in getting owners correct in rpm before name services were 
functional was worked around by hard wiring certain  common lookups in rpm 
itself.

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