On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 04:36:48PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> > > Perhaps this isn't as big a deal to most users, I don't know. 
> > But anyway, my boss would like some stats to show our overall 
> > campus networks health/connectivity rates... anyone tried to 
> > gather this kind of stats using RRDtool and if so, would you like 
> > to share your approach?
> > >  
> > > I have a crude approach:
> > > 1. do an snmpget on a switch
> > > 2. based on the response, increment an uptime or downtime 
> > counter (both are DS in an rrd)
> > > 3. generate graphs showing downtime (percentage) and uptime
> > 
> > Why two counters.  Isn't uptime+downtime equal to 100% ?
> > 
> > How are you going to determine the amount of up- and downtime in 
> > each 
> > polling interval?  Perhaps device uptime is the best to look at.
> > 
> > If you have a redundant router (or so), when do you speak of downtime?
> > 
> > HTH
> > Alex
> > -
> 
> Well, being new to RRDtool, I'm still figuring out what is and isn't possible 
> with the tool... so anyway, I thought two counters so one is for uptime the 
> other for downtime. If the switch responds to the snmpget, increment the 
> uptime, if not, increment the downtime. Graphs could then be made using the 
> two counters to show percentage up and percent down... you're right, the sum 
> of the two would always be 100... This way at any given moment, the PDP can 
> tell me the total time device is up, and down...

RRDtool does rates.  Don't think in numbers, think numbers per interval.

> Now here's another thought... do you have to have consiladated data? can you 
> creat an RRD that only stores 5 minute-interval data for whole month? I don't 
> want to average or consolidate the numbers... 

Sure.  How are you going to view the uptime for a 30-day period?  Are you going 
to create
images that are 30 * 24 * 12 pixels wide?
(30 days times 24 hours a day times 12 intervals an hour -> 8640 pixels a month)

And what's wrong with consolidating uptime?
If a device is down,down,down,down,down,down,up,up,up,up,up,up (total of 12 * 5 
minutes) then
it is also down,up (total of 2 * 30 minutes).  In both cases, it was up during 
50% of the time.

> As for the uptime/downtime during each interval, the key word here is crude 
> :) approach... I guess I'm expecting actual downtime to be so small compared 
> to uptime, that if I don't get a response during one poll, I assume the 
> device has been down for that time interval (5 minutes)... that'd be the 
> resolution I guess. Its not totally accurate, but heck, its better than what 
> we have in place now, which is no data period.

Most devices have an uptime counter.  Use it if you can.

HTH
Alex
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