On 10/20/08 5:55 PM, Lixia Zhang allegedly wrote:
> There was a joint NANOG/ARIN session last week on
>   "Moderated Panel: What Would Jon have Done About the Addressing
>    Challenges Currently Facing Us?"
> 
> this was the last session on NANOG-44 agenda
>    http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog44/agenda.php
> All talk slides are online, and I thought they might be interesting to
> at least some RRG people
> My talk is at
> http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog44/presentations/Wednesday/Zhang_Wed_N44.pdf

"Dependency on DNS":  If we substitute using a different distributed
database to resolve identifiers to locators, Jon would still be
concerned.   Actually not just identifiers, but anything for which a
route is not known and for which a separate mapping system has to be
used to figure out how to  deliver a packet, including scoped locators.

However, the only way to avoid this is to change all the hosts, and most
of the approaches that change all the hosts still have site renumbering
problems.  The only way to avoid site renumbering problems is to
completely decouple internal locators from external locators (GSE).

Map-n-encap would upset Jon, as written GSE depends heavily on DNS, GSE
conversion would take longer to solve routing scaling than we have time
for, and nobody wants to make NAT the centerpiece of the new architecture.

How bad is the "relying on something like DNS" problem for map-n-encap?
  I would only be concerned if some non-technical issue made it
difficult to build redundancy and dynamicity into a mapping system.
Security need be no worse than in routing.

Scott

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