Excerpts from Tony Li on Thu, Nov 27, 2008 01:11:31AM -0800:
> All of the Loc/ID split solutions are precisely adding another layer
> of indirection and thus it behooves us to truly understand what
> problems we are creating.

There are many components to an Internet system, and I think we have
to pick things apart some before we start talking about "adding
another layer of indirection".  Let's look at MIP:

  - There is no new level of indirection to mapping a domain name to a
    locator.

  - There is indirection in initial contact.  That has a number of
    potential advantages.  My favorite is privacy.  Another is
    scalability of the mapping system during mobility.

  - There is indirection for initial authentication for direct
    communication.

  - There is indirection for identifier re-authentication for session
    continuity.  (In neither case would I call this a "layer" of
    indirection.)

HIP optionally adds other indirection and takes away most of the
above.  

Does Trilogy multipath add indirection?  It adds a need for _control_
of existing communication, certainly.


> Put another way: I see the strong appeal of a recursive architecture
> and I embrace that portion of the goal.  However, all recursion
> starts with a base case, and it troubles me that the host cannot be
> an element of that base case.  It implies that the base is flawed
> and has limitations in its functionality.  Noel likes to say that
> the measure of an architecture is its ability to adapt to new
> requirements that are not yet forseen.  What new requirements will
> arise in the base architecture where the fundamental lack of host
> participation will cripple us?

When you talk to me, you are shielded from seeing what goes on on a
DWDM link in Kansas.  Are you flawed?  :-)  

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