Scott, All,

On Dec 10, 2008, at 10:23 AM, Scott Brim wrote:
Excerpts from Noel Chiappa on Wed, Dec 10, 2008 09:23:07AM -0500:
From: Scott Brim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

A LISP EID names a network attachment point.

Well.... sort of. (And there are two kinds, IPv4 EIDs and IPv6 EIDs.) What the IPv4 EID really names is whatever a vanilla 'IPv4 address' names, which
is somewhat ambiguous itself.

It definitely names an entity with a collection of higher-level protocols and
their ports (UDP, ICMP, TCP, etc). It also seems to name an interface
(because to get packets to a different interface on a dual-homed host, you need to use a different IPv4 address). This is another 'axis of confusion' with IPv4 addresses (which are also muddied on the location/ identity axis).

First I admit I wrote too quickly, because an EID might be
virtualized.  We may be disentangling identifier and locator but we
still will not have disentanbled locator and "forwarding directive".

Second, the reason I said it names a network attachment point is that
from the point of view of the network -- which is what matters here --
it knows attachment points, not stacks or interfaces.  But that's a
nit.

Related to your second point, I've also started to ponder the longer term "flexibility" of a map-and-encaps approach. More specifically: 1) First, as time progresses, will components within/of the network become more virtualized? In other words, isn't it increasingly likely that we'll want to "name" not only network attachment points, but also stacks, interfaces, virtual machines, processes, etc.? 2) Assuming that #1 is desirable (or required), how would the current crop of map-and-encaps proposals (easily) accommodate that? For example, are we reliant on both mapping and encapsulation (and, within what "scopes") to accommodate the above, or not?

In summary, I'm asking: what is the roadmap beyond this "first-gen" set of map-and-encaps proposals to attain those goals, (assuming people agree they are valid goals)?

Although there's been a lot of emphasis on the feasibility & speed of deployment related to specific (classes of) proposals, there doesn't seem to have been much, if any, detailed discussion related to their flexibility to accommodate, say, #1 among other things that we can reasonably predict might happen in the near future. In the end, a "roadmap" should also be given serious consideration when evaluating all of the (classes of) proposals.

Thoughts?

-shane
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