if you are going to claim liveness through a protocol, you have to send
control packets all the time from M ITRs to N ETRs.

I find this terminology somewhat non-intuitive, and wonder if it's too late to change it. To me, "liveness" would imply as to whether something is live or dead, i.e. up or down. (Such state detection can obviously be performed on ITR I1's behalf by I2, and the result communicated locally from I2 to I1.)

I think its only documented in the Dave/Darrel draft. But they use the term "path liveness" so I think that is a more appropriate term.

The issue of whether packets from ITR Im can reach ETR En (which is where you run into the need for M*N) I would describe as "reachability". (So if there's
a routing problem, or an access control setting, that prevents I1 from
getting to E7 even through I1 can get to E8 and I2 can get to E7, that would be a reachability problem on the {I1, E7} pairing.) I seem to recall this term being used in at least one routing protocol, although I can't now recall
which one.

Right, Dave/Darrel referred to it as "reachable paths", "testing reachability", "is there path liveness". Those sorts of terms.

Dino



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