Robin Whittle wrote:

                 I argue against Fred Templin's position that
                 ordinary RFC1191 DF=1 Path MTU Discovery (and
                 therefore its RFC1981 IPv6 equivalent) is "busted".

                 Where is the evidence that networks filtering out
                 PTB (Packet Too Big) messages is a significant
                 problem?


This happens. Consult some operator folks, privately and quietly. Many enterprises blocked all inbound ICMP when DDoS attacks started happening.


                 To the extent that any such problem exists, why
                 should this be accepted and further protocols
                 created to work around it?  I think the networks
                 which do this are non-compliant with the inter-
                 working requirements of the Internet.  These
                 networks should change their ways.


You have the cart before the horse. Reality is not warped to fit the needs of the network architecture, the network architecture must be molded to deal with reality. The fact of the matter is that today, we have a hostile environment. Anything and everything that can be used to create an attack will be used. To protect themselves, many people will happily throw the baby (or at least its signaling protocol) out with the bathwater.

As a result, ICMP is dead.  Long live ICMP.

Tony
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