Additional implications:

   o Node (IP) address changes at mobility. (It is not fixed, globally
unique...)

   o Intra-domain routing is done based on node addresses, not on PoA
(interface) addresses

   o There's nothing like PoA (interface) address in the scenario.
Gone. This is no problem, since the same information is with the
sub-layer node address, e.g., MAC address.

Regards,
DY



On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Dae Young KIM <[email protected]> wrote:
> Toni,
>
> This is one of the descriptions I'd like the most in this mailing
> list. Wonderful.
>
> Question: Is LINP based on the ideas you describe? Hope so. Otherwise...
>
> I might have the same views as yours, but the parts I like the most include:
>
>  - Name the node, not the interface.
>
>  - Do inter-domain routing by use of domain IDs.
>
> To go a little bit further, a picture I have would be:
>
>  - Use FQDN as the name for your content/application/node...
>
>  - Use IP address to name to nodes; Redefine the meaning of the IP
> address, it names the node, not the interface.
>
>  - In the intra-domain routing, this nod (IP) address would be used
> just like now with OSPF.
>
>  - Use domain IDs in inter-domain routing.
>
> In this way,
>
>  - except redefinition of the meaning of IP address,
>
>  - nearly nothing changes;
>
>        o (Possibly extended) DNS can be used as before.
>        o Existing hosts may not be changed, keeping their IPvX
> addresses, perhaps only one is enough
>        o OSPF works just the same
>        o Basic operations of BGP can be kept with new formatting
> based on domain IDs. If current ASN infra is not appropriate, then
> maybe design new numbering scheme for domains.
>        o Multi-homing will be inherent, now that nodes are named,
> not the interface.
>        o Mobility is just dynamic multi-homing, perhaps a bit too fast.
>
>   - one important implication is:
>
>        o Now that inter-domain routing is done by use of domain IDs,
> host IP addresses need not be globally unique. They can be local. We
> don't even need IPv6. The number space of IPv4 is already huge enough
> for any local domains. Of course, there might be additional benefits
> for using IPv6. They can choose to use IPv6, no problem. They are
> local anyway.
>
> I've been away from this ML for long, and do we have any proposals
> close to my idea or to your idea? I might like to support such a
> proposal.
>
>
> Regards,
> DY
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Toni Stoev <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Please write something along these lines - I think it would be a good
>>> contribution to the RRG and would stimulate further constructive
>>> discussions.
>>>
>>>   - Robin
>>
>> I came to this group with a clear vision on network architecture.
>> What I liked here were the well defined design goals. I agree more input is 
>> relevant.
>> Things that I envision: [Slow down for reading.]
>> Naming node, not interface, with locator, identifier.
>> Strict topology following by locator, that is, every next hop towards a node 
>> within a routing domain to be inscribed. Next hop inscriptions – neighbor 
>> identifiers. This implies variable locator size.
>> Intra-domain routing then becoming piece of cake: locator longest prefix 
>> match. This implies a starting node in every routing domain.
>> Binding of routing domain identifier with locator. In a role-based 
>> architecture: locator role implies routing domain ID role (roles realized as 
>> header options).
>> Then, inter-domain routing based not on intra-domain locator( prefixe)s, but 
>> on domain identifiers only. Routing domain IDs then forming paths (No 
>> reinventing the wheel.).
>> Node identification system: bidirectional numerical DNS-like system. 
>> Bidirectional means a node identified knows locator of its parent and the 
>> parent knows locator of its child. These acquaintance IDs forming fully 
>> qualified node number sequence – the node identifier.
>> I enjoy this part, quoting other people: Node mobility is dynamic 
>> multihoming. Having node identification system, a node roams with locators 
>> coming and going, and is discoverable through its identifier.
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