On Fri, 9 Jul 2010, Tony Li wrote:

In the real world, MAC addresses are not unique, they're just unique most of the time. Any scheme that depends on unique MAC addresses need to gracefully handle when they're not.

In the real world, there are no perfect solutions. Why is everyone insistent on an architecture that solves all problems, even in the face of equipment that clearly does NOT follow existing architectures?

When I designed a ADSL residential broadband solution in 2002 (or so) I made sure we could handle duplicate MAC addresses between customers (this was solved by RFC3069 capable equipment) and I was very happy about that when we discovered a few years later that 5% of our user base was using the same MAC address.

I don't know enough about the pros and cons of each proposed solution (because I haven't really found an easily understandable summary/presentation), but I'm saying that operationally (working at an ISP) I want any solution proposed to gracefully handle identifier collissions (either intentional or unintentional).

It took a long time before there were standards/proprietary mechanisms that made it possible to deploy IPv4 securely to residential customers (finally we now have the SAVI-WG that'll hopefully make this happen for both IPv4 and IPv6) and any solution proposed for the future should have this kind of work built in already.

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