On Tuesday 20 July 2010 at 12:36:56 Javier Ubillos sent:
> On Mon, 2010-07-19 at 09:55 +0300, Toni Stoev wrote:
> > On Sunday 18 July 2010 at 20:28:05 Tony Li sent:
> > > 
> > > Users need a way to be wholly anonymous to the network.  They should be 
> > > able to (privately) arrange their access connectivity and then be able to 
> > > access the network without concerns that they can be identified based on 
> > > their link layer or network layer information.
> > 
> > How about using a temporary fully qualified domain number each time they 
> > choose to roam? Nodes would obtain one on demand by a publicly available 
> > dynamic domain number service.
> 
> Are you referring to a service like dyndns and no-ip? Where you register
> an arbitrary sub-domain name to their service and continually update the
> IP?
> 
> E.g. javier.dynamic-dns.org  ->  IN A 193.10.64.51

Yes, Javier. This is a good example.

> Does any one know how well/badly this could scale?

Since there isn't much special about numbers, this would scale even better than 
with names.

> I've had thoughts along this path my self, where each host at will can
> register an arbitrary "throw-away" sub-domain.

And after throwing it away, it can be reused right away.

> To whom should one be anonymous to?

Very accurate question. I would like to read answers.

> Which turnover would people require on these identifiers?

Putting identifiers into TCP sockets for mobility/multihoming.

> E.g. would it be sufficient if each ISP provides the service to its
> customers, and that the change rate corresponds more or less to the rate
> of IP changes (dhcp). Which could mean anything from never to a few
> times per day.

Reasonable behavior.

> In the case where the local ISP provides the service, I can't see why
> this wouldn't be a great idea, if the ISP can provide IP's, it should
> also be able to provide a few sub-domain names.

Yes, that's right. If the ISP is a mobile operator it would supply its 
customers with identifiers for roaming among access points.

> In the case where the service would be provided by random sites on the
> Internet, well, it is already provided for free today, but I don't know
> how it would scale (or how a business model would work) if all hosts
> start registering names automatically.

Many non-mobile service ISPs employ Dynamic DNS too.
For inter-ISP roaming random/devoted sites are the solution.
The model is quite analogous to the one with names.

> // Javier
> 

Best regards, Javier
Toni
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