On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Brian Dickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > William Herrin wrote: > >> The problem is a spam-like asymmetry. > >> > >> The problem with spam is, one party pays (the ISP delivering mail, and > >> the end user ultimately) for the benefit of another party (the spammer). > > That is a remarkably insightful description of BGP PI as it exists today. > > Actually, I was referring to the ITR/ETR model.
I know but it struck me as such an apt description of BGP PI that I felt compelled to comment. > However, thinking about that, made me realize there is a *huge* issue on > the operational aspect of any > tunnel-based solution. > > As soon as the packets are tunneled, you lose visibility on what is > happening. To some extent, yes. I discuss this a little at http://bill.herrin.us/network/trrp-breaks.html Regards, Bill Herrin -- William D. Herrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3005 Crane Dr. Web: <http://bill.herrin.us/> Falls Church, VA 22042-3004 -- to unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: <http://psg.com/lists/rrg/> & ftp://psg.com/pub/lists/rrg
