> -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William > Herrin > Sent: 05 March 2008 02:58 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: Routing Research Group > Subject: Re: [RRG] Are host-stack modifications allowed or disallowed ? > > On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Tony Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > |End users have been doing TE for as long as they've had access to > > |competitive offerings. It is not a thing to be feared. > > > > Agreed, but reality intrudes. The entity forwarding the traffic is > largely > > in control of what the next hop should be. While it's not unreasonable > for > > everyone on the path to express an opinion, the basic architecture of > > hop-by-hop forwarding means that the instantaneous decision made right > now > > may or may not take those varying opinions into account. > > Hi Tony, > > Ultimately, the user has the power because he has the off switch. I've > heard a rumor that customer churn is a burning problem for ISPs. It > seems obvious (to me at least) that the more options you can give the > user between "on" and "off," the better chance you have of retaining > him as a paying customer. > > How much control should the user have over his routing? Exactly as > much as practical and no more.
This reminds me of philosophical discussions in mobility community about network vs terminal controlled handover. The user (terminal) has the ultimate power because they can always move to another operator. However, it's a leap to say that therefore mobile-controlled handover is the correct way of doing things (eg GSM took a different view & did network controlled - I doubt if many users cared one way or the other!) Best wishes phil > > > > If a solution provides an influence > > mechanism, but the ISP can choose to disregard it, is that acceptable? > > From a purely philosophical standpoint, I argue that's backwards. The > ISP should provide the routing nudge which the user can choose to > disregard. Think of it like driving a car: the roads tend to funnel me > towards the Interstate highway and I normally go the direction they > lead but I can choose back roads any time I feel like it and nobody > says, "stop." > > Regards, > Bill Herrin > > > -- > William D. Herrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 3005 Crane Dr. Web: <http://bill.herrin.us/> > Falls Church, VA 22042-3004 > > -- > to unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the > word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. > archive: <http://psg.com/lists/rrg/> & ftp://psg.com/pub/lists/rrg -- to unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: <http://psg.com/lists/rrg/> & ftp://psg.com/pub/lists/rrg
