On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 20:58 +1000, Robin Whittle wrote: > Hi again Per, > > You wrote: > > > Any company and/or organisation today is expected to analyse the > > behaviour of their market and client-base. How hard is it for the > > internet registries to ask a statistically significant selection > > of their clients (LIRs) and known legacy-allocation holders if > > they're willing to give up some of their allocated blocks, how > > much of it, and on which conditions? > > The scenario I am proposing depends to a large extent on map-encap. > It could still happen to a limited extent by creating more and more > BGP advertised prefixes, but that will be resisted because it would > unfairly burden all DFZ router operators. > > For the RIRs to seriously consider the possibility I am suggesting, > they would need to have a good understanding of the possibilities of > map-encap schemes.
>From where do you get the idea that these groups are so completely disconnected? There's always been disputes between ISP-engineers with a preference for practical working solutions and idealist scientists. Still, leading engineers in the provider industry who are active participants in governance-communities are closely following these developments as subscribers on these lists. Your assumptions of ignorance is offending a lot of people. > Yet these schemes - with the exception of the > LISP prototype code - are vapourware and hardly known outside the > RRG. Even within the RRG not many people have much faith in them, > and each of us map-encap developers has less faith in the other > systems than in our own! If the RIR communities are so ignorant then why have such solutions been discussed both on and off-stage at community conferences for years? [snip] > I imagine there would be a curved relationship between the price per > IP address and the number of IP addresses in the prefix which > end-users want. > > I think you could find hundreds of thousands of end-users who would > pay, say $20 a year per portable, multihomable IP address, for small > amounts such as 1, 2, 8, 32 or so. A problem with this is that micro-allocations only make up a small portion of the annual global consumption. If the big consumers are pushed into such prices/address you'll very soon see considerable investments going towards alternative solutions. //per -- to unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: <http://psg.com/lists/rrg/> & ftp://psg.com/pub/lists/rrg
