On 10/17/07, David Chelimsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/17/07, Pat Maddox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think you'll BOTH learn more and be far more efficient if you pair > > together rather than giving him a bit of theory/tips & tricks and then > > leaving him to his own devices. > > Hear, hear!!!!!!! > _______________________________________________ > rspec-users mailing list > rspec-users@rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users >
I have to agree w/Pat here, wrt to pair programming. (And let me say that I am _so_ jealous!) If it were up to me, I would start with BDD, Probably, immediately right after hello_world.rb. Even before they learn any Ruby syntax at all. Your toy app sounds more like a real application to me. It has actual user stories, confirmable results, etc. Why not break the usual cycle of code a little, test, code a bit more, test, repeat, from the start? RSpec is a DSL, like Rails is a DSL. And you don't need to know much ruby to get started in Rails. I say that holds true in RSpec as well. The only qualms I can see is the concept of Mocks. But you could introduce that in something he is familiar with like Java. I only wish my mentor had forced me to learn test first, back in the day. But that was before all you geniuses where on the scene to set us straight! Ed -- Ed Howland http://greenprogrammer.blogspot.com "The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or legally privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from all computers." _______________________________________________ rspec-users mailing list rspec-users@rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
