On Mar 19, 2008, at 3:21 PM, David Chelimsky wrote: > On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Glenn Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On Mar 19, 2008, at 1:03 PM, David Chelimsky wrote: >>> Again - this is a matter of granularity. The whole point of having >>> granular examples is to enable you to make changes to the system >>> easily via refactoring. Sometimes refactoring requires moving >>> examples >>> around along with the implementation code. This is refactoring 101 >>> stuff, and an accepted part of the refactoring process in all of my >>> experience prior to working in Ruby. It's only people in the Ruby >>> community that I see expressing this concern. I think it's because >>> the >>> refactoring tools for Java and C# are superior, so they automate a >>> lot >>> of the granular steps you need to take when refactoring manually. >>> >>> The problem with decreasing the granularity is that it makes fault >>> isolation more difficult. It means less work right now for lots more >>> work down the road. >> >> Perhaps my example simplified my problem too much. The chore that I >> was referring to unfortunately wasn't about refactoring. I wish it >> had been that easy! Instead it was really the behavior that got >> transfered, but the logic and code was quite different. The goal was >> to ensure the end result was still the same, that way I would know I >> hadn't broken anything but still had the new structure that I needed. >> Without my specs covering the resulting state I would have had no >> guidance to help me here. > >> From Fowler: "Refactoring is the process of changing a software >> system > in such a way that it does not alter the external behaviour of the > code yet improves its internal structure." > > Sounds like what you are describing is exactly that, no?
Yes, it is, but since you spoke mostly of the simple kind of refactoring that Eclipse might do for Java I figured that's all you thought I was talking about. I was speaking about redesigning the stuff under the hood. There's no ctrl+ function in Eclipse that would do that one for me! Glenn > David > _______________________________________________ > rspec-users mailing list > rspec-users@rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users _______________________________________________ rspec-users mailing list rspec-users@rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users
