On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Mark Wilden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Dan North <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> It seems these conversations come up time and again because Rails >> overloads the idea of "model". In a Rails app the model serves as both your >> domain model and your persistence strategy, because of the coupling inherent >> in the Active Record pattern. > > Interesting. This coupling actually brought me to one of my first "a-ha!" > moment in Rails (similar to when I first learned about the ++ operator in > C). Finally, I thought, I don't have to do anything to set up the > butt-simple relationships between models and tables that are found (as you > say) in 90% of web apps (and other applications, too). Rails allows models > as complicated as you want, and it also allows you to do work in the > database when you need to (I know "find_by_sql" is a dirty word, but it > allows me to perform pivots on multiple tables of millions of rows, where AR > simply could not handle the SQL). But it makes the overwhelmingly common > case simple, and I like that. > So I've found that this model-db coupling to be a powerful feature of Rails. > I know it's saved me a lot of work, because I've had to do it manually so > many other times in the last 25 years. If it's not sufficient or appropriate > in any particular case, I don't have to use it. > I know this view puts me on the wrong side of the contest you speak of > (which I frankly didn't even know I'd entered). And yes, using Rails the way > I (and many others) do involves trade-offs. But the one trade-off it doesn't > require is with TSTTCPW, which is the guiding philosophy in everything I do. > I guess this makes me an AR pixie. :)
I *think* Dan means underlying magic code when he uses the word pixie. > ///ark > _______________________________________________ > rspec-users mailing list > rspec-users@rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users > _______________________________________________ rspec-users mailing list rspec-users@rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users