FakeFS definitely looks like a nice solution!

I also like the argument about not tightly coupling the specs to File and 
FileUtils.

Mvh
Morten Møller Riis



On Dec 5, 2011, at 6:21 PM, David Chelimsky wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Morten Møller Riis
> <mortenmoellerr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Matt
>> 
>> Thank you for your reply!
>> 
>> I mock things like FileUtils for the following reasons: to avoid testing
>> FileUtils which I reckon has its own test suite and to avoid doing
>> potentially harmful things locally or having specs fail because of
>> insufficient permissions etc. I know the last bit could be worked out, but
>> for things like #rm_r I do like just to mock them.
> 
> Have you looked at FakeFS? It is faster than actually working on the
> filesystem, and it avoids problems like accidentally deleting stuff.
> 
>> Please let me know if this is not best practice. I know one can "over-mock"
>> a spec suite, but I generally tend to mock things that are tested/spec'ed
>> themselves.
>> 
>> Mvh
>> Morten Møller Riis
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 5, 2011, at 3:39 PM, Matt Wynne wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On 5 Dec 2011, at 12:04, Morten Møller Riis wrote:
>> 
>> Hi folks
>> 
>> 
>> How would you spec something like this:
>> 
>> 
>>   as_user username do
>> 
>>     FileUtils.chmod_R 0755, "#{directory}/*"
>> 
>>   end
>> 
>> 
>> Where as_user fires off a new process (and set uid to username).
>> 
>> 
>> It seems that this won't catch FileUtils.chmod_R:
>> 
>> 
>> FileUtils.should_receive(:chmod_R).with(0755, "#{@domain.directory}/*")
>> 
>> 
>> I guess that is because it is passed in the block and fired off in a
>> seperate process (Process.fork).
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> It depends on what you want to prove.
>> 
>> If you want to prove that this bit of code will set the actual flags on the
>> actual file, then why not let it do it, and then check that the file ends up
>> how you want it to? If it's happening in a forked process, you'll need to
>> wait for the process to close to be sure it's done, but otherwise that
>> should be quite straightforward, and will give you confidence that the whole
>> thing is working.
>> 
>> Otherwise, you need to put a layer around the whole detail of forking and
>> running the FileUtils command, and put your mock assertion against that
>> layer. Right now you're trying to introduce your mock into the stuff that
>> happens in the forked process, which isn't going to work.
>> 
>> cheers,
>> Matt
>> 
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