Hi Alexis,

On 31-Jan-25 13:40, Alexis Rossi wrote:


On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 10:54 AM Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com 
<mailto:brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    Mirja,
    On 30-Jan-25 21:41, Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF) wrote:
     > Hi Brian, hi all,
     >
     > I have to say I actually like the model we used last time, which is 
basically that the RSAB collects all input and then provides it to RSWG after the 
call ended, which then can discuss everything that might need discussion. It’s 
different than the IETF last call model but that doesn’t mean it's bad.

    I respectfully disagree. I think that approach inhibits direct discussion 
between the people who raise issues and the RSWG.

          Brian


The outcome of the last RSAB call for comments was that we returned the doc to 
RSWG along with the relevant community comments that prompted us to return it. 
[1]

If we had sent that email to both rswg AND rfc-i, would that solve the problem?

Not really. This model still doesn't enable direct discussion between the 
people making last call comments and the people who produced the document, 
without the RSAB acting as a filter. That's the distinguishing characteristic 
of the IETF model compared to the model that the RSAB adopted.

I'm willing to be told I'm in the rough on this. It just isn't quite what I 
expected.

   Brian

In other words, rfc-i would have been notified as well that the document was 
returned to RSWG for discussion, and they could choose to see the comments that 
caused it to be returned. At that point, anyone interested who is not already 
in rswg could then go participate in any ensuing discussion on the wg list.

(maybe I'm at a disadvantage in this convo because I am not steeped in the IETF 
last call model)

Alexis

[1] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rsab/F4CcZJEg2itjrxiACdpiyW-NAco/ 
<https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rsab/F4CcZJEg2itjrxiACdpiyW-NAco/>
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