I do want to note that RFC 7996 has the following text in the introduction
[1]:

"Note that in RFCs, the text provides normative descriptions of
   protocols, systems, etc.  Diagrams may be used to help explain
   concepts more clearly, but they provide supporting details and should
   not be considered to be complete specifications in themselves."

So we did already say this about SVGs, albeit in a softer way.

Alexis

[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7996#section-1

On Sun, May 11, 2025 at 4:09 PM Michael Richardson <mcr+i...@sandelman.ca>
wrote:

>
> Martin J. Dürst <due...@it.aoyama.ac.jp> wrote:
>     >> But pushing for a complete ban of the tools that have worked for us
>     >> since RFC 1 is a complete non-starter.
>
>     > Can you point to a recent message that proposed a "complete ban" of
> things
>     > such as ASCII art? I can't remember any.
>
> That's never been proposed.
> It's about whether the ASCII art (or SVG) is allowed to be normative on
> it's own.
>
> Drawing packet diagrams *at all* is the "tool" in question.
>
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