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Tev 2016-07-01 14:00 GMT+02:00 <rsync-requ...@lists.samba.org>: > Send rsync mailing list submissions to > rsync@lists.samba.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/rsync > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > rsync-requ...@lists.samba.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > rsync-ow...@lists.samba.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of rsync digest..." > > To unsubscribe or change options: > https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/rsync > Before posting, read: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html > > --------------------------------------- > Today's Topics: > > 1. rsync on Windows questions (Fabian Cenedese) > 2. Re: rsync on Windows questions (Simon Hobson) > 3. Re: rsync on Windows questions (Fabian Cenedese) > 4. Re: rsync on Windows questions (Fabian Cenedese) > > > ---------- Videresendt e-post ---------- > From: Fabian Cenedese <cened...@indel.ch> > To: rsync@lists.samba.org > Cc: > Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2016 09:15:30 +0200 > Subject: rsync on Windows questions > Hi > > I'm using a cygwin compiled rsync on Windows to backup > and restore files from my local Windows computer. I'm trying > several destination types: > > - remote with rsync:// > - Samba share \\Server\Share > - local drive > > I'm having problems with the user rights. The backup works > ok but after restoring some files I can't access them. I've > read that this is because rsync runs as cygwin user and the > *ix rights are completely different than the Windows ACLs. > I've tried various combinations of -o -g -acl -p etc. But none > worked so I could access my files immediately. Some people > had success when adding in their cygwin /etc/fstab a mount > parameter noacl. However I don't have a full cygwin, only the > rsync binary and the necessary cygwin dlls. The only > parameter that helped somehow was > > --chmod=a=rwx,Da+x > > Is there no other possibility? Can I maybe tell cygwin to use > a custom fstab from my installation directory? How do other > people use rsync on Windows? > > And a second question: Do --copy-dest or --link-dest > help on local targets? Or does this create even > more stress on the disk? > > Thanks > > bye Fabi > > > > > > > ---------- Videresendt e-post ---------- > From: Simon Hobson <li...@thehobsons.co.uk> > To: "rsync@lists.samba.org" <rsync@lists.samba.org> > Cc: > Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 09:12:19 +0100 > Subject: Re: rsync on Windows questions > Fabian Cenedese <cened...@indel.ch> wrote: > > > I'm having problems with the user rights. The backup works > > ok but after restoring some files I can't access them. > > That's to be expected. > NTFS has a very rich permissions system and rsync won't be capturing that. > While it's a PITA, your best best is resetting permissions after restore. > It's probably as 'simple' (for your own documents etc) to select the top > level folder they are in, go to permissions, and have Windows re-apply them > recursively - but as to the exact steps, I can't remember as Windows is > something I avoid as much as I can get away with. > > It's actually rather funny, but sad, that NTFS has a security model > waaaaaay more capable and nuanced than most Unix systems (even some with > ACLs) - yet until relatively recently, Windows didn't take advantage of > this. > > > And a second question: Do --copy-dest or --link-dest > > help on local targets? Or does this create even > > more stress on the disk? > > I don't think NTFS supports hard links, and if it doesn't then link-dest > won't work anyway. > > Overall, while rsync is a good tool for many things, for backups in the > Windows world it's probably not a good fit except for your own documents > where it's "easy" to reset file permissions after a restore. Trying to do > other than documents (ie the system and applications) is pretty well > guaranteed to lead to security permissions screwed up to the point where > it's not worth doing the backup in the first place. > > > > > > ---------- Videresendt e-post ---------- > From: Fabian Cenedese <cened...@indel.ch> > To: "rsync@lists.samba.org" <rsync@lists.samba.org> > Cc: > Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2016 10:35:00 +0200 > Subject: Re: rsync on Windows questions > At 10:12 01.07.2016, Simon Hobson wrote: > >> I'm having problems with the user rights. The backup works > >> ok but after restoring some files I can't access them. > > > >That's to be expected. > >NTFS has a very rich permissions system and rsync won't be capturing > that. While it's a PITA, your best best is resetting permissions after > restore. It's probably as 'simple' (for your own documents etc) to select > the top level folder they are in, go to permissions, and have Windows > re-apply them recursively - but as to the exact steps, I can't remember as > Windows is something I avoid as much as I can get away with. > > I know how to do it (or at least managed to do it manually), but this > backup > and restore should also be usable for "normal" users that don't know about > or don't want to fiddle with access rights. > > >Overall, while rsync is a good tool for many things, for backups in the > Windows world it's probably not a good fit except for your own documents > where it's "easy" to reset file permissions after a restore. Trying to do > other than documents (ie the system and applications) is pretty well > guaranteed to lead to security permissions screwed up to the point where > it's not worth doing the backup in the first place. > > This is meant to copy local documents so they're not lost in case of a > locky attack. This is not a complete backup, just kind of a Windows poor > man's time-machine where the files on the server are not accessible to > viruses. It'd be perfect if I could just force rsync to run as the local > user > instead of some linux/cygwin user. OK, the best thing would be a native > rsync for Windows :) > > There are several tools out there that use a cygwin rsync and just offer > a GUI for easier handling. I was wondering if they don't have this problem > or if they compile a special rsync without the user rights stuff. > > Thanks > > bye Fabi > > > > > > ---------- Videresendt e-post ---------- > From: Fabian Cenedese <cened...@indel.ch> > To: "rsync@lists.samba.org" <rsync@lists.samba.org> > Cc: > Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2016 11:31:15 +0200 > Subject: Re: rsync on Windows questions > At 10:35 01.07.2016, Fabian Cenedese wrote: > >At 10:12 01.07.2016, Simon Hobson wrote: > >>> I'm having problems with the user rights. The backup works > >>> ok but after restoring some files I can't access them. > >> > >>That's to be expected. > >>NTFS has a very rich permissions system and rsync won't be capturing > that. While it's a PITA, your best best is resetting permissions after > restore. It's probably as 'simple' (for your own documents etc) to select > the top level folder they are in, go to permissions, and have Windows > re-apply them recursively - but as to the exact steps, I can't remember as > Windows is something I avoid as much as I can get away with. > > > >I know how to do it (or at least managed to do it manually), but this > backup > >and restore should also be usable for "normal" users that don't know about > >or don't want to fiddle with access rights. > > I'm now trying the MinGW/MSYS rsync. That is older (3.0.8) but seems to > work much better concerning user rights. > > Thanks > > bye Fabi > > > > > _______________________________________ > Before posting, read: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html > > rsync mailing list > rsync@lists.samba.org > https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/rsync > >
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