On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 12:54,  <[email protected]> wrote:
> I think that what he is asking about is what makes logs acceptable or not
> acceptable when doing forensics, and what configurations of rsyslog would
> be acceptable.

That's still unclear as to whether the logging instances are being
analyzed or they are part of the analysis process (i.e. logging
investigator actions, "interesting" items, etc.).

> for example, rsyslog can be configured to use disk-based queues on
> redundant drives and RELP for network communication, and the result will
> be that rsyslog is _very_ reliable in terms of preserving messages that
> get to it (at the cost of performance, but you can throw hardware at it to
> deal with that)
>
> this is probably acceptable as a log for forensics type work.
>
> but what about the more normal settings? (tcp or udp network
> communications with memory-based queues). those settings can loose data,
> but won't under normal conditions (assuming the network isn't so busy that
> it drops UDP packets)

Generally speaking, forensics prefers the "save everything, impossible
to lose" approach.  A single lost message probably won't break a given
case, but the possibility is definitely there.  RELP with disk queues
on hardware-redundant drives would probably be a good start if you're
looking to ease future analysis, but it is my opinion that networked
logging of the forensic process is both unlikely and overkill, as most
analysis processes want their logs integrated instead of held as a
separate source.

One item I have had on my wish-list for quite some time is the ability
to log directly to a UDF VAT filesystem (incremental writes on
write-once optical media).  Poor man's WORM, if you will.  It would
enable physical assurance that log data is unmodified up to the point
of compromise.  Add in the idea of incremental checksums or signing,
and you have an extremely controlled, verifiable log source.  Of
course, it doesn't have to be solved in rsyslog-space, but it'd
definitely be useful.


RB
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