Out of curiosity Is heartbeat limited to only 2 nodes?  Can more than one node 
be active?  There are some of the features that I enjoy about having an 
external load balancer.


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Subject: Re: [rsyslog] rsyslog | VIP

You can use heartbeat (http://linux-ha.org) running on your rsyslog servers to 
manage a VIP on the servers themselves (no need for an external load balancer 
device)

The hard part of the question comes when you need to determine under what 
conditions you want to declare a box dead to force a failover.

>From a practical point of view, rsyslog is pretty darn reliable, so if you 
>just run rsyslog on both systems and only configure heartbeat to failover if a 
>box is completely dead you will be in pretty good shape.

Hoever, this would not work in the case where rsyslog stops on a box that is 
otherwise healthy. How much checking you want to do to decide if rsyslog is 
healthy can be complex, various tests can include:

1. is rsyslog running (simple ps |grep check)

2. is rsyslog listening to a port (lsof check, netstat check, or probing a
port)

3. is rsyslog processing the message (sec watching for a message from rsyslog 
on a file or named pipe)

4. internal status checking in rsyslog

There are also other subtle prroblems that a box can have that will make a box 
still think it's healthy, but not be working properly for your logging

For example:

Routing problems could cause a box to still be up, but be unable to talk to 
boxes on other networks

Disk I/O problems could cause the box to be unable to write logs, even though 
it can still receive them (or if the box is a relay, a downstream box could be 
not responding so it can't forward the log messages)

If a box runs out of memory, various things on the box will get killed, which 
may leave a box not working the way it should

I have had about a hundred pairs of boxes running heartbeat for the last decade 
(more at some points than at others, but averaging around a hundred
pairs) and I've only had about a dozen or so problems stranger than what the 
simplist heartbeat configuration detects (full box down issues) during that 
time, which is why I say that as a practical matter, you are probably just fine 
with the simplest configuration, without trying to monitor rsyslog explicitly.

David Lang



On Thu, 19 Apr 2012, Martinez, Carlos R wrote:

> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 13:47:39 +0000
> From: "Martinez, Carlos R" <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: rsyslog-users <[email protected]>
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: [rsyslog] rsyslog | VIP
> 
> I'm looking for the best way to put my rsyslog servers behind a VIP for TCP & 
> UDP traffic.
>
> It appears that the best solution thus far at least for TCP is fault tolerant 
> setup with port probing.  I have tried a VIP load balance/round-robin 
> configuration but it takes a while for the syslog/rsyslog client to start 
> logging to the surviving rsyslog server when I bring one down.  As for UDP 
> I'm not having good results at all and I'm starting to wonder if the best 
> solution would be to have a static VIP IP where I use CLUSTERIP configuration 
> on my systems where the failover occurs over the virtual network interface.
>
> Any suggestions is appreciated.
>
>
> Here is my configuration:
>
>
> syslog/rsyslog client ->->->-> VIP ->->->-> rsyslog_server1, 
> rsyslog_server2
>
> VIP options:  1) fault tolerant w/port probing 2) load balance/round robin 3) 
> static IP (multicast) utilizing CLUSTERIP option.
>
> I prefer the load balance configuration for data center HA.
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