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> From: [email protected] [mailto:rsyslog-
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Radu Gheorghe
> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 4:08 PM
> To: rsyslog-users
> Subject: Re: [rsyslog] Privilege drop makes stopping it (via Ubuntu
> upstart) to hang
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I'm back :) Here's what I got (correct me if I'm wrong):
> 
> Without dropped privileges, rsyslogd forks and exits. It writes the PID
> of
> the forked process in the pid file, and everyone is happy.
> 
> With dropped privileges, rsyslogd forks but doesn't exit. I guess
> that's
> because the parent runs as root and needs to remain there. The pid file
> still contains the PID of the child process, but it's no good killing
> it,
> since the parent is still alive.
> 
> While I don't know how/if it can be implemented, what makes sense to me
> is
> the following solution:
> - even with dropped privileges, the main rsyslogd instance should exit
> after the initialization is finished


Mmmhhhh... I am puzzled by this finding. As far as termination of processes is 
concerned, there is no intended difference between priv drop and not. I will 
check the code if I can see anything. If that's due to some OS restriction, I'd 
be glad if someone could let me know what's going on.

Rainer

> - in case privileges are dropped, the first child (which would run as
> root)
> should do whatever root previleges are required for. And fork a child
> of
> its own to do the unprivileged stuff
> - the pid file would always contain the PID of the first child. This
> way it
> would be backwards compatible, and `kill $(cat /var/run/rsyslogd.pid)`
> should also kill the "grandchild", if applicable
> - the "main" rsyslogd should always hang in there until initialization
> is
> finished and exit when there's either an error or initalization
> finished
> 
> Does it make sense? Is it possible? Are there other/better options?
> 
> Best regards,
> Radu
> 
> 
> 2013/1/10 Radu Gheorghe <[email protected]>
> 
> > Hi Michael,
> >
> > Thanks for your input! This is what I get:
> >
> > # grep expect /etc/init/rsyslog.conf
> > expect fork
> >
> > # ps ax | grep rsyslog
> >  7465 ?        Ss     0:00 rsyslogd
> >  7466 ?        Sl     0:00 rsyslogd
> > # initctl status rsyslog
> > rsyslog start/running, process 7466
> > # grep expect /etc/init/rsyslog.conf
> > expect daemon
> >
> > With "expect daemon" it's the same behavior, only it waits
> indefinitely
> > when I do `start rsyslog`. So it won't work.
> >
> > Looking for better solutions now. I'll be back :)
> >
> >
> > 2013/1/9 Michael Biebl <[email protected]>
> >
> >> And I forgot to ask:
> >> With "expect fork" and "expect daemon", which process is listed when
> you
> >> run
> >> initctl status rsyslog and does it match what you get from ps?
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in
> the
> >> universe are pointed away from Earth?
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