At the risk of my first email to this list sounding heretical (hi everyone) 
logstash does have its place. If all you need to do is store logs in 
ElasticSearch, omelasticsearch is probably the better choice. However logstash 
has a lot of other capabilities including things like pulling stats from logs 
and sending them to statsd or graphite, a plugin for pager duty, outputs for a 
whole variety of monitoring platforms, and more. Having said that it does use 
substantially more memory and CPU than rsyslog. As always determine what you 
need to do first and then pick the best tool for the job. We're using rsyslog 
to forward logs to logstash, which stores a subset in ElasticSearch and sends 
stats to statsd/graphite.

As for Kibana, IIRC Kibana 3 is the ElasticSearch interface, it's been pulled 
into the ElasticSearch project.

cheers
mike

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On 2013-10-29, at 6:30 AM, "Boylan, James" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

To answer some of the questions from my experience.

Logstash -

It is so highly documents merely because it has been around for a fair amount 
of time. The omelasticsearch module has been around for a while, but much of 
that time was as a community driven module that wasn't directly packaged with 
Rsyslog. This is no longer the case.

Really I can't think of any other reason for that. Frankly, if you expect to be 
dealing with a high throughput of logs, I recommend not using logstash. My 
initial tests on it found that Logstash used almost 10 times more CPU to do the 
same processing that Rsyslog with omelasticsearch did.

As to the second question I'm not sure what is being asked. Elasticsearch 
doesn't have a UI, it's a indexing engine with an API. You have to either build 
your own Front end or use one of the pre-created Front end (Like Kibana).

-- James
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----- Reply message -----
From: "David Lang" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
To: "rsyslog-users" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: [rsyslog] Fwd: RSyslog Logstash Kibana Elasticsearch Preference
Date: Tue, Oct 29, 2013 2:34 am



you would have to ask the people who are telling you to use logstash over
rsyslog why they are doing so. The rsyslog people are not the ones telling you
to use logstash

David Lang

 On Tue, 29 Oct 2013, masoom alam wrote:

Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 10:46:32 +0500
From: masoom alam <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Reply-To: rsyslog-users 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
To: rsyslog-users <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: [rsyslog] Fwd: RSyslog Logstash Kibana Elasticsearch Preference

HI every one.

My friend wants to ask the following questions, but he cannot post on the
rsyslog list. The strange thing is that there is no yes/no response from
the list. He has subscribed twice. Please help.

Thanks.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: waqar afridi <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 10:42 AM
Subject: Fwd: RSyslog Logstash Kibana Elasticsearch Preference
To: Sir Masoom Alam <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>,




---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: waqar afridi <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 10:04 AM
Subject: RSyslog Logstash Kibana Elasticsearch Preference
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>



Hello All

I hope everyone would be OK, First of All I would welcome my self to
RSyslog family with this email. I have alot of questions that I will ask
from time to time and I hope my rookie question would be tolerated :p

I have few question

*Log Collection through RSyslog or Logstash*

I want to collect log and then store it in elasticsearch, I have already
have did this btw, I can collect log through logstash, store it in
elasticsearch and then display it through Kibana, my Question is why use
Logstash? Can't RSyslog provide all these functionality of log collection?
The only reason I see is that Logstash have filters, RSyslog can store logs
in elasticsearch through OMELASTICSEARCH, why using logstash is so highly
recommended?

*Kibana vs Elasticsearch UI*

This question does not concern this mailing list but I will ask it anyway
may be in near future someone like me will come looking to answer the same
questions :p which one should I prefer? Kibana or the UIs for
elasticsearch? My main concern is to minimize rely my dependance on
external tools as much as possible without weakening my Log-server.

More Questions to come in Near Future

Regards


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