On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 10:01 AM, David Lang <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, 20 Jan 2014, Rainer Gerhards wrote:
>
>  Folks, you are great!
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Radu Gheorghe <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  What are we trying to accomplish? That's a good question. I'm guessing
>>> performance, reliability and related epithets are things that come to
>>> mind,
>>> but the "vision" isn't clear to me. "The enhanced syslogd for Linux and
>>> Unix" is what rsyslog.com says, but it doesn't say much to me. IMO, it's
>>> already there and beyond, maybe we need a new goal. Or is there one and
>>> I'm
>>> not aware of it? Rainer?
>>>
>>>
>> Did I mention that we need someone who is good at public relations? ;)
>>
>> Of course, we've moved far past this point. I even remember that I
>> rephrased the mission statement for a presentation, but guess what ... I
>> can't even find it! At least I admit my fatal fail ;)
>>
>>
>>
>>> To me, it's not only about syslog,
>>>
>>
>>
>> right ... since long...
>>
>>
>>  expecially since the likes of imfile and
>>> imjournal have been introduced. It looks like rsyslog is more a generic
>>> performance-oriented tool for gathering, buffering, processing and
>>> delivering application logs. But it's just how I see it.
>>>
>>>
>> If I try to put my vision into a single phrase, I'd say rsyslog intends to
>> be the "swiss army knife of monitoring".
>>
>
> monitoring is too broad a term.
>
>
my goodness... what did I do over the weekend??? "logging" I meant... ;)

Rainer
(I'll otherwise let the discussion flow a bit -- looking for "unaffected"
feedback ;)).


>
>   Actually, we coined that vision
>> looooooong ago (15 years?) for Adiscon's Windows tools, and when I began
>> to
>> work on rsyslog I had that very same idea on my mind. In a somewhat longer
>> text, this means to me that rsyslog should be able to accept, transform,
>> convert, process, forward and emit all types of event logs, making it a
>> kind of universal translator of "logging languages".
>>
>
> "universal translator and transport for logging" sounds like a good start.
> I think it would be nice to get 'routing' in there as well.
>
> David Lang
>
>
>  Thinking about this, would it make to have a mission goal discussion
>> before
>> we go down to the logo question? ;)
>>
>>
>>  Back to the original question, I'm available for a short Skype next week
>>> if
>>> I'm needed. I can send my Skype name via personal Email to anyone who
>>> requests it.
>>>
>>>
>> Yup, obviously the same with me ... but mind of the  mission statement
>> question. Guess that needs to go first - and we really should try to gain
>> agreement, shouldn't we?
>>
>> Thanks again to everyone. This list is really enlighning.
>>
>> Rainer
>>
>> PS: I may put up a form of the current logo on github as a temporary
>> measure... Just so that you know. Doesn't mean it's solved ;)
>>
>>
>>>
>>> 2014/1/19 Mauricio Tavares <[email protected]>
>>>
>>>  How can we get a meeting of all involved in the logo adventure? I
>>>> talked to my friend, Jill, and she is game but needs to know a bit
>>>> more of what we are trying to accomplish. After all, a logo is more
>>>> than a pretty picture.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:05 PM, Otis Gospodnetic
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There are sites like "people by the hour" or something similar where
>>>>>
>>>> you
>>>
>>>> can fund people producing decent logos for a reasonable price.
>>>>>
>>>>> Otis
>>>>> Solr & ElasticSearch Support
>>>>> http://sematext.com/
>>>>> On Jan 13, 2014 10:59 AM, "Radu Gheorghe" <[email protected]>
>>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Mauricio, if you know someone who can do it then go for it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure when my guy will come back and when he will, I can tell
>>>>>>
>>>>> him
>>>
>>>> that someone else is taking care of "the job" :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2014/1/13 Rainer Gerhards <[email protected]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Mauricio Tavares <
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 8:52 AM, Rainer Gerhards
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 6:39 PM, Radu Gheorghe <
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  FYI, the guy I was talking to before the holidays didn't get
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>
>>>> time
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> finish it within that week. Then came the holidays, and now
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> he's
>>>
>>>> on
>>>>
>>>>> a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> business trip. So I'm not sure what the ETA is now.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If anyone else wants to take over this task, just let me know
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> so
>>>
>>>> I
>>>>
>>>>> can
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> tell
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> him. If not, I'll follow up with him when he's back and let you
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> know
>>>>
>>>>> when I
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> have the logo.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sorry if I was blocking something, I didn't expect all those
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> delays.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't think anything is blocked. I know too well how all of
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> this
>>>
>>>> volunteer work and priorities work out ;) At least I'll be
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> waiting
>>>
>>>> patiently. Thanks again for taking care of this!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>        If you need a plan B, I might know someone who can help in
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the
>>>
>>>> art/logo dept.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Oh, that's excellent. I am happy with all of that, so maybe it's
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> best
>>>
>>>> if
>>>>
>>>>> both of you talk to each others (and the designers ;))?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rainer
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