-----Original Message-----
From: Rainer Gerhards <[email protected]>
Reply-To: rsyslog-users <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, April 8, 2014 at 1:45 AM
To: rsyslog-users <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [rsyslog] elasticsearch RPM for el5

>On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:53 AM, Mike Hoskins (michoski)
><[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Andre Lorbach <[email protected]>
>> Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, rsyslog-users
>> <[email protected]>
>> Date: Monday, April 7, 2014 at 10:19 AM
>> To: rsyslog-users <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [rsyslog] elasticsearch RPM for el5
>>
>> >Elasticsearch requires libuuid and libcurl,. Either one or both of
>>these
>> >libs were outdated and could not be rebuild from newer sources easily.
>>So
>> >I had to remove support for elasticsearch on EHEL5.
>>
>> I'm almost entirely on CentOS 6.x now so don't care personally, but it's
>> ashame...since RHEL/CentOS 5.x is not "old" by any means, 5.10 was just
>> released end of last year, and it's pretty reasonable to expect larger
>> enterprises -- which are probably also the ones who would fund projects
>>--
>>
>
>I like this "theory of funding". Actually, nobody objects trying to work
>on
>this if the project is funded, and if a sponsor would come up and request
>that this and that feature must be available on RHEL 5 AND fund that work,
>we'd be more than happy to do that. The plain fact is that this is a myth.
>Nobody wants to fund such work, which IMHO is also a very good conclusion
>that nobody *seriously* wants it.

Yep, fully understand...

A colleague and I have spent the past six months building a PoC, writing
up our justification and getting required budget approval to fund
development work for patches to OpenLDAP (various bugs and new features in
pcache and translucent) with a contract to return all work to OSS
community.  So it is possible to get funding, and do it right, but it's
rather arduous even on the inside.  :-(

As I've mentioned in the past, I was somewhat recently handed a collection
of environments using logstash.  All I (well, my users) really care about
is getting data into elasticsearch.  I try not to rip and replace just
because I'm more comfortable with something, but for years all log infra
I've built has been rsyslog based (since replacing syslog-ng).  I love
rsyslog, and logstash has given me several real issues
(performance/stability) so I am waiting to find free time to build a
rsyslog based PoC that accomplishes the same functionality as what my
colleague built (he's conveniently reassigned and unavailable to
help...big pond).  So it's quite possible I'll be able to arrange funding
similar to what we've done for OpenLDAP...but I need time to "play" and
find out.  That said, I'd be deploying everything on latest OS versions,
so funding would be more bug fix/feature request oriented.

Certainly can't complain about free work, just pointing out that no matter
how "current" (or not) people think a given RHEL release happens to
be...large enterprises will often be using current-1 and basing a lot of
infrastructure on it (similar thought process to how Solaris versions used
to be adopted) -- although many of those will also be paying millions for
commercial log solutions so probably moot.  :-)

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