I have had now time to check the ChangeLog. There was a fix when imudp
prevented shutdown. This is now part of 8.6.0. I could very well address
what you describe.

HTH
Rainer

2014-12-02 23:04 GMT+01:00 Kendall Green <[email protected]>:

> To specifically answer the question, "Are you saying that DebugOnDemand
> must be set for rsyslog to work properly? or that you are only trying to
> start it with that set?"
>
> We've tried both service rsyslog start and /etc/init.d/rsyslog start, which
> rsyslog will appear to run properly, however shutdown does not work
> properly unless is started with /etc/init.d/rsyslog start while debug on
> demand env is set. Thus if started services from the init.d then execute
> service rsyslog restart, the system would appear to shutdown and startup
> properly, but the next stop action would fail to report in
> /var/log/messages as restart from 'service' script has same issue as the
> 'start' function. So Yes, debug on demand must be set then run by
> /etc/init.d/rsyslog start and restart, or the stop process is latent and
> without logging.
>
> Thank you for your help in isolating this obscure issue with rsyslog
> running on VMware instances with RHEL6.5.
>
> On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Kendall Green <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > In order for rsyslog to start/restart properly on VMware, the set env
> with
> > export RSYSLOG_DEBUG="DebugOnDemand" and directly execute
> > /etc/init.d/rsyslog start, no special debug options, and if restart from
> > service script it will fail to stop properly with exit status in
> > /var/log/messages.
> >
> > When comparing ps -eZ |grep rsyslog, on physical server, kernel prefix
> the
> > output, but the VM displays only a hyphen, '-' preceding pid information
> > that is otherwise the same.
> >
> > Does this solution apply concerning vmware kdump: and the necessity for
> > the debug variable?
> >  https://access.redhat.com/solutions/260003
> >
> > So, VMware instance of RHEL6.5, rsyslog ps -eZ process does not appear to
> > be owned by 'kernel', start/restart will display stop/exit status in
> > /var/log/messages when /etc/init.d/rsyslog start is executed from root
> > directly with debug on demand set. Is debug setting at all related to
> that
> > rh solution?:
> >
> >    -
> >
> >    When hot-adding memory to a Red Hat Enterprise Linux system running in
> >    a vmware environment, the system may attempt to reload the kdump
> kernel and
> >    regenerate a new kdump initrd.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 5:36 PM, David Lang <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> If SELinux is disabled, you should be able to see any differences in how
> >> rsyslog is started by looking at the resulting command line with ps (or
> >> thorugh /proc)
> >>
> >> There has to be something different about the way they are being started
> >> if one works and the other doesn't.
> >>
> >> Are you saying that DebugOnDemand must be set for rsyslog to work
> >> properly? or that you are only trying to start it with that set?
> >>
> >> David Lang
> >>
> >> On Mon, 1 Dec 2014, Kendall Green wrote:
> >>
> >>  Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 17:30:26 -0700
> >>> From: Kendall Green <[email protected]>
> >>> Reply-To: rsyslog-users <[email protected]>
> >>> To: rsyslog-users <[email protected]>
> >>> Subject: Re: [rsyslog] Question on DoDie
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Verified SELinux is disabled on both VMware instance and baremetal
> >>> installs, and no systemd, only the traditional service init functions.
> >>> There doesn't appear to be any differences between the scripts:
> >>> /etc/init.d/rsyslog and the /etc/rc.d/rc#.d/S12rsyslog
> >>>
> >>> There appears to be something ''unknown'' happening on vmware instance
> >>> for
> >>> service init, which could relate to the udev rules, kdump, being
> >>> different
> >>> from baremetal, or another aspect which makes a difference when setting
> >>> DebugOnDemand and starting from /etc/init.d/rsyslog instead of service
> >>> rsyslog start.
> >>>
> >>> Both methods of starting the rsyslog service appears to work, but will
> >>> not
> >>> stop and restart properly. However stop/start/restart will succeed
> >>> consecutively, only when started by '/etc/init.d/rsyslog start' while
> >>> DebugOnDemand value set for rsyslog debug env.
> >>>
> >>> Since it is consistently, only a problem on systems that are VMs on
> 8.2.2
> >>> and now 8.4.2, even with RHEL6.2 recently upgraded to RHEL6.5 and issue
> >>> persists.
> >>>
> >>> Anyone have an answer to more specific difference between
> init.d/rsyslog
> >>> start and service rsyslog start on RHEL6.x?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks!
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 2:36 PM, David Lang <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>  This sounds like it's more likely a problem with the service
> >>>> scripts/systemd config than with rsyslog itself.
> >>>>
> >>>> what is different between /etc/init.d/rsyslog start and service
> rsyslog
> >>>> start?
> >>>>
> >>>> is the command line any different? or are they started with different
> >>>> SELinux settings?
> >>>>
> >>>> David Lang
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, 1 Dec 2014, Kendall Green wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>  I have encountered similar issue which is repeatable when running
> >>>> RHEL6 on
> >>>>
> >>>>> VMware instances, with RSyslog 8.4.2.ad1, where shutdown takes a very
> >>>>> long
> >>>>> time and does not report the exit signal to /var/log/messages as it
> >>>>> does
> >>>>> on
> >>>>> baremetal installs. The issue is that rsyslog stop/exit message only
> >>>>> appears in /var/log/messages if started/restarted from init.d/rsyslog
> >>>>> when
> >>>>> having rsyslog debug env value set DebugOnDemand.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Running service rsyslog stop/start or restart will show the exit and
> >>>>> start
> >>>>> messages, but the next stop or restart will fail to report the
> >>>>> exit/service
> >>>>> stop message because rsyslog needs to be started by
> >>>>> init, "/etc/init.d/rsyslog start" instead of "service rsyslog start",
> >>>>> along
> >>>>> with the debugging on demand, present but inactive. Otherwise, when
> >>>>> rsyslog
> >>>>> is started without debugging, or from service rsyslog start, the
> stop /
> >>>>> exit message is lost, and the slowdown indicates other issues with
> the
> >>>>> shutdown/processes...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Are these issues already corrected in the upcoming 8.6.0 release,
> with
> >>>>> announcement of bug fix for shutdown issues when running with more
> than
> >>>>> one
> >>>>> thread, or support for RHEL7 systemd, backwards compatible with RHEL6
> >>>>> service rsyslog scripts?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> Kendall
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Rainer Gerhards <
> >>>>> [email protected]>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  Just in case you have overlooked my message: i am waiting for a
> debug
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> log.
> >>>>>> And... sorry if *I* overlooked a log you sent ;)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Rainer
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sent from phone, thus brief.
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