2015-02-10 12:57 GMT+01:00 David Lang <[email protected]>: > On Tue, 10 Feb 2015, Rainer Gerhards wrote: > > 2015-02-07 2:21 GMT+01:00 Champ Clark III <[email protected]>: >> >> >>> On the phone thus slow typing and only posting now to select issues: I >>>> currently think doing rules in a github repo would probably be the best >>>> >>> way >>> >>>> today. The wiki was good in 2010 (maybe not even then...). >>>> >>> >>> >>> That would be great. I know that starting a repo has come up several >>> times >>> in the past. >>> >>> I have some liblognorm rules from Sagan that I'd be more than happy to >>> put >>> into the repo. If you look >>> at https://github.com/beave/sagan-rules, any file that ends with a >>> .rulebase is for liblognorm. >>> >>> >>> For example: >>> >>> >>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/beave/sagan-rules/master/ >>> cisco-normalize.rulebase >>> >>> >>> that looks quite good! >> >> I also have finally setup a repository: >> >> https://github.com/rsyslog/liblognorm-rulebases/tree/master >> >> Note that it has a place both for sample as well as rulebases, so log >> sample contributions can also go into it (in the long term, it would be >> great to have a kind of automatic check that a rulebase really matches a >> sample...). >> >> I haven't copied over the Sagan files yet, as I try to keep everything >> under ASL 2.0. Also, if someone suggests a better license to use, just let >> me know. I wanted a pretty liberal one. Maybe 2-clause BSD is even better. >> Now it's easy to change, later on it'll become a nightmare. So make >> yourself heard :-) >> > > I do like the 2-clause BSD for this.
Thanks, I guess so it's better to go that direction, especially... > While in theory it has the drawback that commercial entities could take > what we do, make it part of a product, and give nothing back, I would really have no problems with that. It's not nice, but I think it is more important to try to reach sufficient momentum for liblognorm and chances are good that at least something will be given back by way of promoting the technology. Of course, one can construct cases where all of this is hidden, but... do we really need to care ;) I don't think there is a license that could prevent that without being > scary enough to management/legal types that they aren't willing to use the > results internally. > > So if we can't prevent abuse, let's simplify the legalities to the bare > minumum > > > remember IANAL > > Remember that these are snippets of config files, and they can be used > independently or with what are effectively include statements. It's really > ugly > to try and argue that one file is a derivitive of another when the only > connection is that they are both included from a third. > > > In fact, I think arguments could be made that a large part of what is in > the config files is not protectable by copyright (being that it's > functional, and there's not much variation on how to do it other than > naming the variables, and functional isn't protectable by copyright, and if > you can't separate out the functional parts, you can loose protection of > the whole thing) > > > And even if this worst case happens, the liblognormalize code that is > doing the processing is not BSD, and if a company does try to make the > configs part of a closed product, they would still have to deal with that > issue, which is very clear. Anyone trying to do this would almost certinly > end up providing fixes (either as code or as financing for a license to the > ASL code) to assist everyone. yup Rainer > > > David Lang > > _______________________________________________ > rsyslog mailing list > http://lists.adiscon.net/mailman/listinfo/rsyslog > http://www.rsyslog.com/professional-services/ > What's up with rsyslog? Follow https://twitter.com/rgerhards > NOTE WELL: This is a PUBLIC mailing list, posts are ARCHIVED by a myriad > of sites beyond our control. PLEASE UNSUBSCRIBE and DO NOT POST if you > DON'T LIKE THAT. > _______________________________________________ rsyslog mailing list http://lists.adiscon.net/mailman/listinfo/rsyslog http://www.rsyslog.com/professional-services/ What's up with rsyslog? Follow https://twitter.com/rgerhards NOTE WELL: This is a PUBLIC mailing list, posts are ARCHIVED by a myriad of sites beyond our control. PLEASE UNSUBSCRIBE and DO NOT POST if you DON'T LIKE THAT.
