TL;DR: Extending the current output-formatting capabilities would be great, but, to me, the proposal seems half-hearted. I'd prefer a more powerful solution.

On 06/18/15 08:31, David Lang wrote:
There are so many cases where someone needs to override something in the
default template (bad hostname, bad programname, etc) that having to
create a custom tempalte for each thing gets to be a hassle.

Agreed; been there and it's not just a hassle, it doesn't work very well.

I'd like to propose that we have some templates that are exactly the
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I don't think extending templates this way is the right approach.
It feels like a kludge, using the instruments at hand, to get this use case working. It would be a code that has to be maintained and I'd hope that if something in this area gets implemented, it would be a more flexible solution.

A less flexible solution would be to allow overriding properties of messages when some condition is met. But that doesn't solve all the needs and some property values are interdependent.


I've recently dealt with a scenario where an omfile template had to be tweaked depending on the message content. This doesn't work well for omfile because you get two actions with different templates writing into the same file.

So I think there are actually two problems (or limitations):
* the first is that templates are a static property (can't switch between templates dynamically) * the second is that they're a property of the output action ONLY instead of a message + output action / output module / ... combinations. (Here I'm treading on thin ice...)


With static templates, what changes are the values of the referenced properties - which can't be overridden, AFAIK. If you want to change the static bits or use different properties, you have to duplicate the action with a different template.

It would feel natural to have an action that switches/assigns a template to a particular message on a particular path. You can construct arbitrarily complex conditions in rainerscript for calling these actions.


The downside is that all this would probably decrease the performance quite a bit.

Tomas

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