Croom didn't coach under Curry. He left with Perkins and went to Tampa Bay.
Lee -----Original Message----- From: Steven Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 11:33 AM To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Deere Jamie Deer Queenie, you are entitled to your opinion no matter how wrong it is. :-) For a journeyman QB, Fiedler turned into a fair QB for Miami under Shula. I don't think having college coaching experience is a big deal except in recruiting, and I think that Mike being from South Florida had a little something to do with his hiring. RTR LC --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > OK...lets look at what you said Jamie... > > 1. Croom is an Alabama Alumnus as well. Also, he > was an assistant COLLEGE coach for Bryant AND > Perkins AND Curry. Curry is about as far away from > the Bryant era as I care to get. Shula had NO > college coaching experience. He was also the QB > coach in Miami. Do you remember how well Miami's > QB's performed during his tenure? > > 2. Croom is from one of the most respected and well > known families in Tuscaloosa County. No strip club > incidents, lying about his football acheivements or > his education. > > 3. Croom doesn't have the millionaire name but > think about this...he coached linebackers at > Alabama. He saw talent in 2 little guys (and many > more I'm sure)...Cornelius Bennett and Derrick > Thomas. He was the running backs coach with the > Detroit Lions when they had a mediocre running back > named...Barry Sanders. The man knows his stuff. > > So bullshit. You can't tell me that the color of > his skin was NOT the motivating factor. That dog > don't hunt here...maybe in Tampa or Talledega (Hi > LC!)but not here. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]'t.piss.on.my.foot.and.tell.me.its.raining.com > > > > > > > From: Jamie Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: 2003/12/03 Wed AM 11:33:37 EST > > To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama > Athletics Discussion List > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: RE: [RollTideFan] Croom becomes first > black SEC coach > > > > Me either LC....I will always contend that Shula > was > > hired over anybody else for three reasons....1) He > is > > a BAMA alumdedum,but moves football away from the > > Bryant era....2)He is a first class person, that > so > > far is above reproach, and 3) his name is > > SHULA....remember BAMA and SHULA< two great names > , > > one great tradition....Jamie > > > > --- LC wrote: > > > I ain't buying that racism spin. > > > > > > RTR > > > LC > > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Mike: > > > > >From what I understand (which is not the > end-all > > > > be-all,) MSU did this thing right. They did > > > > interview several decent WHITE candidates as > well. > > > > > > > Get this...they even interviewed other BLACK > > > > candidates too! I don't think the hiring of > Croom > > > > was a media ploy, he was the best person for > the > > > > job. Had the powers that be at Alabama been > > > > thinking with their brain instead of testerone > and > > > a > > > > touch of racism, we would have Croom and > probably > > > > done a *little* better than a 4 win season. > > > > > > > > > In addition, the Rev. JJ is a joke and > everyone > > > > knows it. No one pays attention to Jesse's > rants > > > > anymore than they would Al Sharpton. > > > > > > > > > > > > Flame away, > > > > Sonja > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Mike Laborde" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Date: 2003/12/02 Tue AM 09:32:37 EST > > > > > To: "'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama > > > > Athletics Discussion List'" > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Croom becomes > first > > > > black SEC coach > > > > > > > > > > I agree 100%. Problem is, the Black Klan > leaders > > > > in this country will not leave the race issue > > > alone. > > > > > > > > > > I was just wondering. Did MSU contact Price, > > > > Neuheisel, Oliver, Stallings, Donnan, (Tiny) > > > Bowden, > > > > Solich, or any of the HuGe > > > > > number of more qualified & out of work > *WHITE* > > > > coaches before contacting Croom? I really > don't > > > know > > > > but I doubt it. MSU was > > > > > arm-twisted into hiring Croom by, at the > very > > > > least, the horrible shit that was thrown at > Bama > > > > when they hired Shula. There > > > > > was surely more back-room bullshit that went > on > > > > between Jackson and the rest of the Black Klan > and > > > > MSU also. > > > > > > > > > > I wish Croom an 11-1 season every year at > MSU. > > > > It's great to see Bama men succeed. It's just > a > > > > shame there has to be a cloud > > > > > hanging over a black man's hiring because of > the > > > > Black Klan. They hurt the black people. They > do > > > not > > > > help them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of > > > > SHR > > > > > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 8:31 PM > > > > > To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama > > > > Athletics Discussion List > > > > > Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Croom becomes > first > > > > black SEC coach > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I sure do wish everyone could focus on > Croom's > > > > accomplishments as a coach instead of the > color of > > > > his skin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > > > > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama > > > Athletics > > > > Discussion List > > > > > > > > > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! 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