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----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Goodson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 6:17 PM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] NON - To the pacificists who think WE are thebadguys. > It won't work > > Today we did what we had to do. They counted on America to be passive. > They counted wrong. > Ronald Reagan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 5:12 PM > Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] NON - To the pacificists who think WE are the > badguys. > > > > Take me seriously for a moment, please. > > > > DO NOT CLICK ON THE LINK BELOW > > if the sight of a man being decapitated might > > disturb you. I'm giving you fair warning, this > > is probably the most gruesome thing I have > > ever seen. > > > > http://tinyurl.com/38ymb > > > > > > SERIOUSLY, > > > > JT > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tim Boozer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:25 PM > > Subject: [RollTideFan] NON - To the pacificists who think WE are the bad > guys. > > > > > > > NOTE: > > > > > > An al-Qaida affiliated group IN BAGHDAG carried this out in the name of > > > religion while chanting "God is great." > > > > > > These people are barbarians and if a leader of this so called "religion" > > > does not emerge NOW to lead these pathetic sheeple to peace, then Islam > will > > > indeed become the true enemy. Right now only the radicals of Islam are > the > > > enemy, but there does not appear to be a non-radical arm of Islam that > > > actually has a voice! > > > > > > Do me a favor and don't respond to me with anything remotely comparing > this > > > to the abuse of prisoners. Abuse of prisoners is wrong, but as a friend > of > > > mine said, "from the pictures I've seen, my initiation into my college > > > fraternity was worse." Again, the prisoner abuse is wrong and > inexcusable, > > > but keep it in perspective. This man was beheaded while people chanted > "God > > > is great." > > > > > > Barbarians! > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > > ---- > > > > > > > http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=11&u=/ap/20040511/ap_o > > > n_re_mi_ea/egypt_iraq_american_beheaded > > > > > > or > > > > > > http://snipurl.com/6b7e > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > > ---- > > > > > > > > > Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq > > > > > > 6 minutes ago Add Top Stories - AP to My Yahoo! > > > > > > > > > By NIKO PRICE, Associated Press Writer > > > > > > CAIRO, Egypt - A video posted Tuesday on an Islamic militant Web site > showed > > > the beheading of an American civilian in Iraq (news - web sites), and > said > > > the execution was carried out by an al-Qaida affiliated group to avenge > the > > > abuse of Iraqi prisoners by American soldiers. > > > > > > > > > The video bore the title "Abu Musab al-Zarqawi shown slaughtering an > > > American." It was unclear whether al-Zarqawi - an associated of Osama > bin > > > Laden (news - web sites) - was shown in the video, or was claiming > > > responsibility for ordering the execution. > > > > > > > > > Al-Zarqawi also is said to have ties to terrorist groups ranging from > Ansar > > > al Islam in Iraq to Egyptian Islamic Jihad. He's believed to be behind > many > > > attacks in Iraq, including numerous high-profile operations. > > > > > > > > > The video pictures of the execution showed five men wearing headscarves > and > > > black ski masks, standing over a bound man in an orange jumpsuit - > similar > > > to a prisoner's uniform - who identified himself as Nick Berg, a U.S. > > > civilian whose body was found on a highway overpass in Baghdad on > Saturday. > > > > > > > > > "My name is Nick Berg, my father's name is Michael, my mother's name is > > > Suzanne," the man said on the video. "I have a brother and sister, David > and > > > Sarah. I live in ... Philadelphia." > > > > > > > > > There was no way to be certain the tape was authentic. > > > > > > > > > After reading a statement, the men were seen pulling the man to his side > and > > > putting a large knife to his neck. A scream sounded as the men cut his > head > > > off, shouting "Allahu Akbar!" - "God is great." They then held the head > out > > > before the camera. > > > > > > > > > Berg's family said Tuesday they knew their son had been decapitated, but > > > didn't know the details of the killing. When told of the video by an > > > Associated Press reporter, Berg's father, Michael, and his two siblings > > > hugged and cried. > > > > > > > > > "I knew he was decapitated before. That manner is preferable to a long > and > > > torturous death. But I didn't want it to become public," Michael Berg > said. > > > > > > > > > "Our thoughts and prayers are with his family," said White House Press > > > Secretary Scott McClellan, traveling with President Bush (news - web > sites) > > > in Arkansas. "It shows the true nature of the enemies of freedom. They > have > > > no regard for the lives of innocent men, women and children. We will > pursue > > > those who are responsible and bring them to justice." > > > > > > > > > Because Berg was a U.S. citizen, the FBI (news - web sites) has > jurisdiction > > > to investigate the case as a criminal matter. A senior law enforcement > > > official in Washington, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the FBI > > > would probably get involved so long as adequate security is provided by > the > > > military for investigators to do their work. > > > > > > > > > On the Web site, one of the executioners read a statement: > > > > > > > > > "For the mothers and wives of American soldiers, we tell you that we > offered > > > the U.S. administration to exchange this hostage with some of the > detainees > > > in Abu Ghraib and they refused." > > > > > > > > > "So we tell you that the dignity of the Muslim men and women in Abu > Ghraib > > > and others is not redeemed except by blood and souls. You will not > receive > > > anything from us but coffins after coffins ... slaughtered in this way." > > > > > > > > > The Web site on which the video was posted is known as a clearing house > for > > > al-Qaida and Islamic extremist groups' statements and tapes. An > audiotape > > > purportedly from bin Laden - which the CIA (news - web sites) said was > > > probably authentic - appeared on the same Web site last week. > > > > > > > > > Western officials say al-Zarqawi, whose real name is Ahmad Fadhil > > > al-Khalayleh, is a lieutenant of bin Laden. The United States has > offered > > > $10 million for information leading to the capture or killing of > al-Zarqawi, > > > saying he is trying to build a network of foreign militants in Iraq to > work > > > for al-Qaida. > > > > > > > > > In the video, the speaker threatened both President Bush and Pakistani > > > President Gen. Pervez Musharraf. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "As for you Bush ... expect severe days. You and your soldiers will > regret > > > the day you stepped into the land of Iraq," he said. He described > Musharraf > > > as "a traitor agent." > > > > > > The slaying recalled the kidnapping and videotaped beheading of Wall > Street > > > Journal reporter Daniel Pearl in 2002 in Pakistan. Four Islamic > militants > > > have been convicted of kidnapping Pearl, but seven other suspects - > > > including those who allegedly slit his throat - remain at large. > > > > > > Suzanne Berg, the mother of the 26-year-old Berg, of West Chester, Pa., > said > > > her son was in Iraq as an independent businessman to help rebuild > > > communication antennas. He had been missing since April 9, she said. > > > > > > "He had this idea that he could help rebuild the infrastructure," she > said. > > > > > > The U.S. military Tuesday said an American civilian was found dead in > > > Baghdad, but did not release his identity. State Department spokeswoman > > > Susan Pittman said she couldn't release the name of the dead American, > but > > > said she not aware of more than one civilian found dead in recent days. > > > > > > The military said there were signs of trauma to the body. Suzanne Berg > said > > > she was told her son's death was violent but did not want to discuss > > > details. > > > > > > Berg, who was in Baghdad from late December to Feb. 1, returned to Iraq > in > > > March. He didn't find any work and planned again to return home on March > 30, > > > but his daily communications home stopped on March 24. He later told his > > > parents he was jailed by Iraqi officials at a checkpoint in Mosul. > > > > > > "He was arrested and held without due process," his father, Michael > Berg, > > > told the Daily Local News of West Chester recently. "By the time he got > out > > > the whole area was inflamed with violence. > > > > > > The FBI on March 31 interviewed Berg's parents in West Chester. Jerri > > > Williams, a spokeswoman for the Philadelphia FBI office, told The > > > Philadelphia Inquirer the agency had been "asked to interview the > parents > > > regarding Mr. Berg's purpose in Iraq." > > > > > > On April 5, the Bergs filed suit in federal court in Philadelphia, > > > contending that their son was being held illegally by the U.S. military. > The > > > next day Berg was released. He told his parents he hadn't been > mistreated. > > > > > > The Bergs last heard from their son April 9, when he said he would come > home > > > by way of Jordan, Turkey or Kuwait. But by then, hostilities in Iraq had > > > escalated. > > > > > > Suzanne Berg on Tuesday said she was told her son's body would be > > > transported to Kuwait and then to Dover, Del. She said the family had > been > > > trying for weeks to learn where their son was but that federal officials > had > > > not been helpful. > > > > > > "I went through this with them for weeks," she said. 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