Hi Greg,

You are welcome. Could you please clarify which one of the following is the 
packet format:

1) OuterL2-Outer IP-UDP-VXLAN-Inner L2-Inner IP-UDP-BFD

Or

2) OuterL2-Outer IP-UDP-VXLAN-Inner IP-UDP-BFD

If (2) hen how do you specify the VXLAN payload in IP and not Ethernet?

Also This is different from PW BFD, since in case of PW, there can be MS-PW, 
where the LSP BFD is not end-to-end. But in this case we don't have MS-VXLAN.
So the span of the VXLAN and the IP tunnel is the same. 

In other words you have to specify in which part of forwarding the BFD the 
VXLAN Tag is used. If it is not used then it has no effect.

Thx
Shahram

-----Original Message-----
From: Gregory Mirsky [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 1:51 PM
To: Shahram Davari; Vengada Prasad Govindan (venggovi)
Cc: MALLIK MUDIGONDA (mmudigon); Santosh P K; [email protected]
Subject: RE: New Version Notification for draft-spallagatti-bfd-vxlan-00.txt

Hi Shahram,
thank you for your comments to this proposal that make the discussion so much 
alive.
I think that processing of the VXLAN tag by VTEP before validating BFD is 
sufficient, in my view, level of verification. In VCCV BFD the PW label is not 
used for BFD forwarding but we find it useful as Service OAM in addition to RFC 
5884, BFD over MPLS LSP.

        Regards,
                Greg

-----Original Message-----
From: Shahram Davari [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 10:39 AM
To: Vengada Prasad Govindan (venggovi)
Cc: Gregory Mirsky; MALLIK MUDIGONDA (mmudigon); Santosh P K; [email protected]
Subject: RE: New Version Notification for draft-spallagatti-bfd-vxlan-00.txt

Hi Prasad,

Is this a special type of BFD or standard BFD RFC 5880 and 5881)? Since 
standard BFD processing does no care where the BFD came from it only looks at 
"your discriminator" to update BFD state machine.

Also I don't see how many VXLANs can be checked via a single BFD session. Could 
you please describe?

Lastly checking to see a VXLAN/VNI forwarding domain exist in a VTEP should not 
require BFD. Just use some query mechanism. Why do you need to run continuous 
BFD.

What you have to show me to convince me that your draft solves a real problem 
is to show that VXLAN tag  is  used for BFD forwarding. Otherwise BFD over the 
outer or Inner IP should give you all coverage needed.


Thx
Shahram




-----Original Message-----
From: Vengada Prasad Govindan (venggovi) [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 3:11 AM
To: Shahram Davari
Cc: Gregory Mirsky; MALLIK MUDIGONDA (mmudigon); Santosh P K; [email protected]
Subject: RE: New Version Notification for draft-spallagatti-bfd-vxlan-00.txt

Hello Shahram,
  At the terminating VTEP, VxLAN information is used to consume the BFD packet. 
In other words, a BFD session increases the confidence of the existence of the 
VNI-Forwarding Domain mapping and the presence of valid VTEP termination 
configuration at the terminating VTEP. At the originating VTEP, it is a matter 
of implementation of how many VxLAN tables are exercised in the datapath (am 
aware of at least one implementation where it is being exercised to a 
considerable extent).

Thanks
Prasad

-----Original Message-----
From: Shahram Davari [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 8:24 PM
To: Shahram Davari
Cc: Vengada Prasad Govindan (venggovi); Gregory Mirsky; MALLIK MUDIGONDA 
(mmudigon); Santosh P K; [email protected]
Subject: Re: New Version Notification for draft-spallagatti-bfd-vxlan-00.txt

Hi

May be a better way to make this clear is to answer the following question:

Where is the VXLAN tag information used in this BFD forwarding? 

Thx
Shahram 

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