Yes that is the solution.

Regards,
Shahram


> On Jul 10, 2015, at 12:12 AM, Nobo Akiya <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Long and interesting thread :)
> 
> How about setting the MAC-DA as the MAC of the sender VTEP?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -Nobo
> 
>> On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 5:39 AM, Shahram Davari <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Sure.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Rtg-bfd [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Shahram Davari
>> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 11:58 AM
>> To: Reshad Rahman (rrahman); Shahram Davari
>> Cc: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: New Version Notification for draft-spallagatti-bfd-vxlan-00.txt
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Agree. But we can may be come up with a more efficient solution.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thx
>> SD
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Rtg-bfd [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Reshad Rahman 
>> (rrahman)
>> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 5:46 AM
>> To: Shahram Davari
>> Cc: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: New Version Notification for draft-spallagatti-bfd-vxlan-00.txt
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hi Shahram,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Agreed. My point is that running BFD on the tunnel is not good enough for 
>> some failures.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Reshad. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Rtg-bfd <[email protected]> on behalf of Shahram Davari 
>> <[email protected]>
>> Date: Thursday, July 2, 2015 at 12:25 AM
>> To: Reshad <[email protected]>
>> Cc: Shahram Davari <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" 
>> <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: New Version Notification for draft-spallagatti-bfd-vxlan-00.txt
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hi Reshad,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> You don’t need to run continuous  BFD session per VNI to detect UDP port 
>> configuration issue. To justify running BFD per VNI, one needs to show that 
>> the forwarding of each of those BFD sessions depends on specific VNI value.  
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thx
>> 
>> Shahram
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Jul 1, 2015, at 6:22 PM, Reshad Rahman (rrahman) <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hi Shahram,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I agree that running BFD between VTEPs per VNI might not scale well. But by 
>> just running BFD on the IP tunnel IMO you won’t detect certain problems, 
>> maybe hypothetical, such as the UDP port being blocked (e.g. Due to a 
>> misconfigured ACL).
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Reshad.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Rtg-bfd <[email protected]> on behalf of Shahram Davari 
>> <[email protected]>
>> Date: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 at 9:24 PM
>> To: Santosh P K <[email protected]>, "S. Davari" 
>> <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> Subject: RE: New Version Notification for draft-spallagatti-bfd-vxlan-00.txt
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Santosh,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Is the BFD you  are describing in your draft unicast or multicast? If 
>> unicast then service nodes would not apply.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Also if there is a service node then one can run BFD on the IP tunnel 
>> between source VTEP and service node and between service node and the 
>> destination VTEP. This is much more scalable than running end-to-end BFD 
>> between VTEPs per VNI. You could even use such BFD to switch to a backup 
>> service node if there is failure to the main service node.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thx
>> 
>> Shahram
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Santosh P K [mailto:[email protected]] 
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 2:14 AM
>> To: S. Davari; Shahram Davari; [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: New Version Notification for draft-spallagatti-bfd-vxlan-00.txt
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> There can be few VTEPs who might have capabilities to multicast the packet. 
>> In such a scenario VTEP will send that packet to service node and service 
>> node will do a multicast on its behalf. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Santosh P K
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Rtg-bfd [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of S. Davari
>> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 10:48 AM
>> To: Shahram Davari; [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: New Version Notification for draft-spallagatti-bfd-vxlan-00.txt
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> What is a service node?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thx
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Sd
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hi Prasad ,
>> 
>> I don't see how you get more coverage having a VXLAN tag. 
>> 
>> Since you are not testing the VXLAN based VFI/VRF forwarding. By that I mean 
>> you are not testing (DA, VXLAN ) or (DIP, VXLAN) forwarding.
>> GVP1> One of the aspects of the next version of the draft will have a valid 
>> inner DIP instead of 127/8. This should help address your concern to an 
>> extent.
>> Also you are not testing the mapping from AC (Attachment Circuit) to a VXLAN 
>> tag. 
>> GVP1> Agreed, this aspect has not (yet) been addressed by RFC5884 as well, 
>> not using it as an excuse but I am just noting the precedent here.
>> 
>> In my opinion all you are testing, is that at the other end of an IP Tunnel 
>> a specific VXLAN exist or not. Which does not require running continuous BFD.
>> GVP1> There are specific use-cases (see note about Service Node reachability 
>> in Sec 2 of the draft) that require continuous monitoring of some 
>> special-purpose VTEPs.
>> 
>> In my opinion this is a very in efficient way of getting that information. 
>> The controller should be able to get this information much more efficiently. 
>> 
>> It would be good if you can provide an example of what you think is more 
>> coverage than BFD. Or at least what extra coverage do you exactly have in 
>> mind, since this draft is not capable of more coverage than standard BFD 
>> over the IP tunnel. 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Shahram
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Shahram
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 27, 2015, at 7:06 AM, Shahram Davari <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Prasad ,
>> 
>> I don't see how you get more coverage having a VXLAN tag. 
>> 
>> Since you are not testing the VXLAN based VFI/VRF forwarding. By that I mean 
>> you are not testing (DA, VXLAN ) or (DIP, VXLAN) forwarding.
>> GVP1> One of the aspects of the next version of the draft will have a valid 
>> inner DIP instead of 127/8. This should help address your concern to an 
>> extent.
>> Also you are not testing the mapping from AC (Attachment Circuit) to a VXLAN 
>> tag. 
>> GVP1> Agreed, this aspect has not (yet) been addressed by RFC5884 as well, 
>> not using it as an excuse but I am just noting the precedent here.
>> 
>> In my opinion all you are testing, is that at the other end of an IP Tunnel 
>> a specific VXLAN exist or not. Which does not require running continuous BFD.
>> GVP1> There are specific use-cases (see note about Service Node reachability 
>> in Sec 2 of the draft) that require continuous monitoring of some 
>> special-purpose VTEPs.
>> 
>> In my opinion this is a very in efficient way of getting that information. 
>> The controller should be able to get this information much more efficiently. 
>> 
>> It would be good if you can provide an example of what you think is more 
>> coverage than BFD. Or at least what extra coverage do you exactly have in 
>> mind, since this draft is not capable of more coverage than standard BFD 
>> over the IP tunnel. 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Shahram
>> 
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