Hi Santosh

For example, there are two diferrent ingress (LSR1 & LSR2) want to 
establish BFD session with the same egress (LSR3) for same FEC 
(3.3.3.9/32). PLease see the following steps.

step1: LSR1 construct an LSP echo request message, including LSR1-LD (100) 
and FEC (3.3.3.9/32)
step2: LSR3 received the echo request message, if FEC validation check 
succeed, it will NEW a BFD entity, allocate LSR3-LD (200) based on tuple 
<FEC, LSR1-LD>.
       Now LSR3 can send a BFD control packet with MD=200 YD=100.
step3: LSR2 also construct an LSP echo request message, including LSR2-LD 
(100) and FEC (3.3.3.9/32)
step4: LSR3 received the echo request message, if FEC validation check 
succeed, it will match to the above already existing BFD session, because 
tuple <FEC, LSR2-LD> equal <FEC, LSR1-LD>

thanks
Deccan




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2015-07-17 下午 01:27

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Mallik,
   When a BFD packet is received with your_disc as non-zero then we use 
only that as demux entity. Your_discr is a value allocated by local router 
and should be unique across the system. So where is the question of having 
any other field to be used as demux? Are you talking about same discr for 
BFD session for same LSP in case of ECMP? Can you please explain more in 
detail what is the scenario? I might have missed some basic thing here. 
 
 
Thanks
Santosh P K
 
From: MALLIK MUDIGONDA (mmudigon) [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 10:45 AM
To: Santosh P K; S. Davari
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Subject: Re: issues about draft-ietf-bfd-rfc5884-clarifications-02
 
Hi,
 
The question is even with LSP ping, how to de-mutiplex if all the 
parameters are the same. That’s where the source address comes into 
picture. 
 
Thanks
 
Regards
Mallik
 
From: Santosh P K <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, 17 July 2015 10:21
To: "S. Davari" <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, Mallik Mudigonda <
[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: issues about draft-ietf-bfd-rfc5884-clarifications-02
 
Sharam,
   True but here it is 5884 and for 5884 (MPLS BFD) we do bootstrapping 
using LSP ping and that exchange discr right? So you should ideally not 
receive any BFD packet with your_disc = 0. 
 
Thanks
Santosh P K 
 
From: S. Davari [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 9:51 AM
To: Santosh P K
Cc: [email protected]; MALLIK MUDIGONDA (mmudigon); [email protected]
Subject: Re: issues about draft-ietf-bfd-rfc5884-clarifications-02
 
Hi Santosh
 
I think the issue is the first BFD packet that has your Desc =0. Question 
is how to differentiate them when they are from different ingress LSR.

Regards,
Shahram
 

On Jul 16, 2015, at 8:48 PM, Santosh P K <[email protected]> wrote:
Hello Deccan, MALLIK and Shahram, 
     I want to understand why do we need this? When BFD bootstrapping is 
completed then we use local discr (BFD packet your discr) as a key which 
will be unique with in the local system. Please take a look at below 
section of RFC 5880. 
 
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5880#section-6.3
 
We don’t need to really use any other fields as we would have exchanged 
the discr using LSP ping. I might have misunderstood your question and 
would like to be corrected. 
 
 
Thanks
Santosh P K 
 
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Hi Mallik 

Source address is also a good method. But it is better to form as 
standard.

thanks 






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Hi, 

I think the question is 2 different ingress LSRs using the same FEC, LSP, 
Discriminator values. Discriminator values can be the same for 2 different 
ingress LSRs and if the other values are same we can always use the Source 
address to differentiate. Am I missing something?

Regards 
Mallik 

From: "S. Davari" <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, 15 July 2015 20:12
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: issues about draft-ietf-bfd-rfc5884-clarifications-02 

Hi 

Why can't the ingress allocate different LD to each of those BFD sessions?

Regards, 
Shahram 


On Jul 15, 2015, at 7:30 AM, "[email protected]" <
[email protected]> wrote:


hi authors

It is neccessary to address the case that different ingress LSR establish 
BFD session with the same egress LSR, with same FEC, same local 
descriminator.
I think it is very useful to introduce a BFD Initiator TLV to LSP ping 
echo request message, to distinguish different ingress LSR. So that 
ingress allocate LD based on tuple <FEC, LSP> as defined in this draft, 
but egress allocate LD based on tuple <Initiator, FEC, RD>.

thanks 
deccan 


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