Hi Jeff,

Thanks for pushing out the v25 with the bulk of the changes (the most
important ones).

I'll wait for the response to my review and update posted
for draft-ietf-bfd-secure-sequence-numbers given the inter-dependency
between the two. I hope Mahesh (and his co-authors) will do so soonish.
Also for draft-ietf-bfd-stability.

I'll put all 3 on hold at my end until I get a go ahead from the authors on
all 3 before doing a final check/pass. If any response or clarification is
required from my side before then, please let me know.

Thanks,
Ketan


On Wed, Jun 4, 2025 at 6:51 PM Ketan Talaulikar <ketant.i...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Med's email is about a high-level topic of YANG in experimental docs -
> that is being dealt separately so please let that part be for now.
>
> We can discuss/close on the YANG parts on my separate thread.
>
> Thanks,
> Ketan
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 4, 2025 at 6:46 PM Jeffrey Haas <jh...@pfrc.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 4, 2025, at 9:12 AM, Jeffrey Haas <jh...@pfrc.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 3, 2025, at 5:30 PM, Reshad Rahman <res...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> <RR> I do recall that in our discussions we had to have "Updated BFD
>> IANA" Module only in 1 document. What I don't remember is whether we
>> considered moving it to draft-ietf-bfd-secure-sequence-numbers instead
>> of having it in optimizing-authentication. But 
>> draft-ietf-bfd-secure-sequence-numbers
>> would still depend on bfd-stability since we're moving the documents
>> together.
>>
>>
>> The fundamental headache is that there are circular dependencies in the
>> documents.  And, there's also a core dependency on assigning code points in
>> one or more documents and then having the need to have one document only
>> own the updated IANA module.
>>
>> And, as we discussed, even if we pulled the YANG module out into an
>> uber-YANG module for the three documents, that only mildly cleans up the
>> dependencies.  That's why we left it in one of the documents.
>>
>> If IETF decides it wants to have IANA update these modules incrementally
>> in a different fashion, we can leverage that mythical alternative
>> methodology.  Meanwhile, the documents reflect our best efforts.  The IESG
>> is encouraged to recommend better alternatives.
>>
>>
>> And, perversely, my mail client pulls Ketan and Med's response after I
>> posted this.  So, we can followup there. :-)
>>
>> -- Jeff
>>
>>

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