The confusion seems to be whether the AH, which gets carried as
a special type of RIP entry, is an RTE or not.

I can see arguments both ways, although the fact that this has taken
25 years to surface suggests that most implementers have
subscribed to a common view that the an AH is not an RTE,
and therefore the RFC is correct.

I propose that we close this as an errata to be fixed in next version
with the statement:

"Some readers have been confused as to whether an AH is considered
to be an RTE. The consensus view it that that it is not. If this
RFC is revised, some clarifying text should be added."

Is that a reasonable way forward?

Stewart




On 02/01/2013 06:08, Bharat Joshi wrote:
Dear Gopakumar,

        I understand what you are saying. In fact, I tested some vendor's 
behaviour to understand how other people have implemented it.

        When authentication is enabled, there should be 2 route entries for 
things to work but I still feel that the RFC is not clear enough on this. In 
fact, in my search, I found that Quagga has issues with this.

Regards,
Bharat
________________________________________
From: Gopakumar C [[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 11:05 AM
To: Bharat Joshi; [email protected]
Subject: RE: A query on RIPv2

Dear Bharat,

In the scenario that you mentioned RIP packet will have two RTEs after the RIP 
header, first one will be authentication RTE and second one will be FULL table 
request RTE with address family identifier as 0. This may be followed by 
authentication trailer depending on the authentication scheme selected.

RFC section 3.9.1 first states the general format of RIP Version 2 request 
message. Even though authentication is present, there is only one RTE (full 
table RTE) other than authentication as authentication RTE doesn't convey 
routing information.

Hope this helps.

Note: I think this is not correct forum to discuss this issue. I am not sure 
where you can post it as RIP mailing list is not active anymore.

Regards,
-Gopakumar

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Bharat Joshi
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 4:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: Bharat Joshi
Subject: A query on RIPv2

Hi All,

      I came across some text in RFC 2453 (RIPv2) which has confused me. It 
would be great if someone can clarify this for me. I searched the net and 
looked through the errata but could not find any reference to this.

In section 3.9.1 of RFC 2453 
(http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2453#section-3.9.1), in second para, following 
text is available:

<quote>

    There is one special case.  If there is exactly
    one entry in the request, and it has an address family identifier of
    zero and a metric of infinity (i.e., 16), then this is a request to
    send the entire routing table.

<unquote>

In section 4.1 of same RFC (http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2453#section-4.1), in 
first para, following text is available:

<quote>

    If the Address Family Identifier of the first (and
    only the first) entry in the message is 0xFFFF, then the remainder of
    the entry contains the authentication.

<unquote>

     Now what has confused me is that if a router is configured to use 
authentication, how should its 'request' message for full routing table look? 
Should it go without authentication information or with authentication 
information?

     If it goes with authentication information then it is not conforming to 
the statement of 3.9.1. If it goes without authentication information then it 
is not conforming to the user configuration and also there may be security 
issues.

Regards,
Bharat

PS: I am currently not subscribed to RTG working group mailing list, so please 
reply all so that I can get your reply.


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