Hi Hannes,

You are right, maybe the text should be clarified. To be honest, this text part 
is old and I took a shortcut and mixing two things :)

First thing is really a per AF activation (ipv4 unicast, ipv6 unicast ...).

The second is do I need to protect "LDP routes" that are inheriting some IGP 
properties or do I consider that LDP is protected by something else (RSVP-TE :) 
).

Best regards,

Stephane


-----Original Message-----
From: Hannes Gredler [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 10:27
To: Anton Smirnov
Cc: LITKOWSKI Stephane SCE/IBNF; [email protected]
Subject: Re: LFA manageability : per AF config => feedback required

hi anton, et al,

there is one more quirk to this:

i have never heard of _LDP_ adress families:

| >    o  Per address-family : ipv4 unicast, ipv6 unicast, LDP IPv4 unicast,
| >       LDP IPv6 unicast ...
| >

so we're referring to something which does not exist - please see latest IANA 
registry:

http://www.iana.org/assignments/address-family-numbers/address-family-numbers.xhtml

/hannes

On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 10:17:03AM +0100, Anton Smirnov wrote:
|    Hi Stephane,
|    I think concern of "alternate nexthops consume resources in the 
| forwarding plane" is generally a valid one. But if you want to solve 
| *this* problem then solution is to give to operator great flexibility 
| to select set of prefixes which are allowed to have protection and 
| this flexibility should go beyond of just per-AF selection.
| 
|    Per-context selection would actually solve different problem - CPU 
| resources needed to compute LFAs (which are spent per-topology 
| independent of number of nexthops which end up being protected).
| 
|    So IMO per-AF granularity might be useful (especially in disjoint
| topologies) but reason given in the draft does not connect with the 
| solution.
| 
| Anton
| 
| 
| On 02/20/2015 08:21 AM, [email protected] wrote:
| >Hi Folks,
| >
| >As you know, LFA manageability draft is in final phasis …
| >
| >The current document states per AF granularity activation as a SHOULD.
| >
| >“
| >
| >
| >      5.1
| >      
<https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rtgwg-lfa-manageability-07#section-5.1>.
| >      LFA enabling/disabling scope
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >    The granularity of LFA activation should be controlled (as 
| > alternate
| >
| >    nexthop consume memory in forwarding plane).
| >
| >
| >
| >    An implementation of LFA SHOULD allow its activation with the
| >
| >    following criteria:
| >
| >
| >
| >    o  Per address-family : ipv4 unicast, ipv6 unicast, LDP IPv4 
| > unicast,
| >
| >       LDP IPv6 unicast ...
| >
| >
| >
| >    o  Per routing context : VRF, virtual/logical router, global 
| > routing
| >
| >       table, ...
| >
| >
| >
| >“
| >
| >In the framework of ISIS/OSPF yang modelization, we are challenging 
| >this statement, do we really need to force implementation to support 
| >this “per AF” granularity ?
| >
| >Please provide as soon as possible your feedback on this and also 
| >provide clear drivers to support or not per AF activation of LFA.
| >
| >Thanks for your help !
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