Hi Chris

That looks good.

Stewart

On 23/12/2015 17:59, Chris Bowers wrote:
Stewart,

I added the following text to the algorithm draft to address this point.

Chris

https://github.com/cbowers/draft-ietf-rtgwg-mrt-frr-algorithm/commit/4ae44182092f13b769834e73150837824c5b0047


    It is expected that an operator will designate a set of routers as
    good choices for selection as GADAG root by setting the GADAG Root
    Selection Priority for that set of routers to lower (more preferred)
    numerical values.

    If the router currently selected as GADAG root becomes unreachable in
    the IGP topology, then a new GADAG root will be selected.  Changing
    the GADAG root can change the overall structure of the GADAG as well
    the paths of the red and blue MRT trees built using that GADAG.  In
    order to minimize change in the associated red and blue MRT
    forwarding entries that can result from changing the GADAG root, it
    is RECOMMENDED that operators prioritize for selection as GADAG root
    those routers that are expected to consistently remain part of the
    IGP topology.

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On 21/12/2015 14:47, Chris Bowers wrote:
Steward,

I don't agree with the initial statement that the technique forms two trees 
rooted at a single node.  The designation of the GADAG root plays an important 
role in computing the red and blue MRT trees.  However,  red and blue MRT trees 
are computed using forward SPFs rooted at each source, which follow the 
directed links on the GADAG and do not propagate past the GADAG root.  The net 
result of these computations can be viewed as producing red and blue MRT trees 
rooted at each destination.  In any case, these trees are not rooted at the 
GADAG root.
Ah, OK.

However the GADAG root can move, does that not have an impact on the repair 
topology? It sounds from the above as if it might since you say you say that 
the root sets a propagation limit.

- Stewart
Anil pointed out that the pseudo-code in draft-ietf-rtgwg-mrt-frr-algorithm 
didn't always make a clear distinction between the root of the forward SPF 
computation and the GADAG root, so we tried to clarify that in this set of 
changes.

https://github.com/cbowers/draft-ietf-rtgwg-mrt-frr-algorithm/commit/a
da619050ec9d773b7919a1c622f068d5a5a5e88

Are there places in the architecture document where similar clarifications 
should be made?

Chris

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Subject: Re: WGLC for draft-rtgwg-mrt-frr-architecture

Another couple of comments on this draft.

The technique you use of selecting a single node and forming two trees rooted 
at that node should really be noted up front in the summary.

A consequence of this is that when you add a node or when the root node fails 
the trees and hence the FRR paths may change. To some extent this happens in 
LFA and RLFA, although the changes will tend to be confined to a local region, 
whereas with MTR I think that the  node may move to a completely different 
region. If that is the case then that has an impact on the FRR traffic 
management. By way of comparison, NV is the least impacted by this approach and 
the SR approach is impacted as much as LFA, but has the option of correcting 
this will a little effort.

I think that there really needs to be some text on the matter in the 
architecture spec.

- Stewart

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