Yes, both ietf-routing-key-chain and ietf-system-keychain seem to be
misleading module names. I think the module names should express what
makes these two keychain modules different and they should not reflect
where the keys might be used.

/js

On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 10:03:44PM +0000, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote:
> I’m about to update this key-chain module and would like to restore the name 
> of simply key-chain since I’ve received negative feedback on the the change 
> to routing-key-chain since it will likely be used for a myriad of non-routing 
> applications.
> 
> Kent - would you be opposed to this? Note that your company’s products refer 
> to the model as simply “key-chain”.
> 
> http://www.juniper.net/documentation/en_US/junos14.2/topics/reference/configuration-statement/key-chain-edit-security-authentication-key-chains.html
> 
> Thanks,
> Acee
> 
> From: rtgwg <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf 
> of Acee Lindem <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> Date: Saturday, April 30, 2016 at 2:40 PM
> To: Mahesh Jethanandani 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> Cc: 
> "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>"
>  
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>,
>  Routing WG <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, Martin Bjorklund 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, Tom Petch 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, 
> "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> Subject: Re: [Netconf] mbj review of 
> draft-ietf-netconf-restconf-server-model-09
> 
> So hopefully we’ve put the issue of combining the module to bed for good… If 
> look at the date nodes for these two models, it is patently clear that these 
> serve two different purposes.
> 
> What about the naming issue? I got a comment that I should take “routing-“ 
> back out due to the fact that this is what that these key-chains can be used 
> for many non-routing purposes. For example, BFD - 
> http://www.juniper.net/documentation/en_US/junos14.2/topics/reference/configuration-statement/key-chain-edit-security-authentication-key-chains.html
> 
> Thanks,
> Acee
> 
> From: rtgwg <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf 
> of Acee Lindem <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> Date: Monday, April 18, 2016 at 6:04 PM
> To: Mahesh Jethanandani 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> Cc: Martin Bjorklund <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, Tom Petch 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, 
> "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, 
> "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>"
>  
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>,
>  Routing WG <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> Subject: Re: [Netconf] mbj review of 
> draft-ietf-netconf-restconf-server-model-09
> 
> 
> 
> From: Mahesh Jethanandani 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> Date: Monday, April 18, 2016 at 4:43 PM
> To: Acee Lindem <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> Cc: Kent Watsen <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, Tom Petch 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, Martin Bjorklund 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, 
> "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, Routing WG 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, 
> "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>"
>  
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> Subject: Re: [Netconf] mbj review of 
> draft-ietf-netconf-restconf-server-model-09
> 
> 
> On Apr 18, 2016, at 10:25 AM, Acee Lindem (acee) 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
> I did get some negative feedback with respect to adding “routing-“ to the
> model name since key chains are used for other non-routing applications as
> well.
> 
> One of those non-routing protocols is BFD. I am fine if the model is called 
> protocol-key-chain, but I wonder what happens the next entity needing 
> key-chain is not a protocol.
> 
> The bigger question in my mind is, are these really different types of 
> key-chains models, or are we talking about one key-chain model?
> 
> The rtgwg key chain model is the one we all know and love associated with the 
> graceful rollover of configurable keys. The netconf model is list of 
> certificates for a public key. Please look at the information content of the 
> two models. I hope I don’t have to answer this question again ;^)
> 
> Acee
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Mahesh Jethanandani
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> 
> 
> 

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