On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 11:48 AM, Khaled Omar <[email protected]>
wrote:

> > Can we just move the discussion(s) there? :)
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> I wish to go discuss there, but where there.
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> *From:* rtgwg [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Christopher
> Morrow
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 21, 2017 6:39 PM
> *To:* John C Klensin
> *Cc:* rtgwg; Khaled Omar; ietf
> *Subject:* Re: When the IETF can discuss drafts seriously?
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> The actual problem here is that the draft discussion's don't actually
> belong on the IETF@ list though... They belong in their respective WG
> lists, or perhaps on the IRTF list.
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> Can we just move the discussion(s) there? :)
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> On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 10:56 AM, John C Klensin <[email protected]>
> wrote:
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> Folks,
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> May I suggest that we wind this discussion thread down.
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> Whether correct or not, analyses of Khaled's character are
> probably not helpful and repetitive versions of them are less
> so.  The S/N ratio on the IETF list is never wonderful and this
> thread should not contribute to making it worse.
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> At least IMO, Khaled has been given a number of quite
> constructive suggestions (both on-list and off) about how to
> proceed if he wants to do so.   Almost all of them include
> focusing on a problem statement and/or a careful and reflect
> literature review and analysis, but, if he wants to make
> progress, he needs to understand the details of those
> suggestions.
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> Let's give him time to do that and see what, in the form of a
> draft focused on those topics, he comes up with and, in the
> process, try to reserve judgment about intentions, quality of
> listening, etc.
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> best,
>     john
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