From: rtgwg <[email protected]> on behalf of Stewart Bryant 
<[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 at 5:55 AM
To: Robert Raszuk <[email protected]>
Cc: Routing WG <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: VPN security vs SD-WAN security




On 25/07/2018 10:40, Robert Raszuk wrote:
/* Adjusting the subject ... */

​Hello ​
Stewart,

​You have made the below comment in the other thread we are having: ​

Indeed, I would have expected this to be on a secure network of some sort 
either purely
private or some form of VPN. However, I am sure I read in your text that you 
were
considering using the Public Internet much in the way of SD-WAN.

​Would you mind as extensively as you can expand on the above statement ?

Specifically on what basis do you treat say L2VPN or L3VPN of naked unencrypted 
packets often traveling on the very same links as this "bad" Internet traffic 
to be even slightly more secure then IPSEC or DTLS encrypted SD-WAN carried 
data with endpoints being terminated in private systems ?

Thx,
Robert

Robert, I think that you have to take it as read that an air traffic control 
SoF system is encrypting its packets. If it is not, then it is clearly not fit 
for purpose.

What concerns me is that an air traffic system is one of the most, if not the 
most, high profile targets in civil society. You get reminded of this each time 
you travel to IETF.

The thing about safety of flight traffic is that a sustained and effective DDoS 
attack has global impact in a way that few other such attacks have.

A VPN system ought to sustain resistance to such an attack better than the 
proposed system which treats the SoF traffic the same as regular traffic.

I guess you are making a case for your network slicing work 😉

Acee


- Stewart


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