Stephane,
Lots of thanks for a prompt response.

I think that a proposal to extract FRR-related things from the IGP YANG data 
models and to move them to a new document in a different WG would be rejected 
at this stage - and justly so.

On the other hand, I wonder what is supposed to happen with YANG for TI-LFA:

-          I would expect substantial overlap with YANG definitions for 
LFA-based FRR in IS-IS and OSPF

-          Since these  definitions are in two different documents handled by 
the LSR WG, and TI-LFA is handled by the RTGWG, this would probably mean yet 
another draft, with its own lifecycle etc.
Keeping all these documents consistent (at least in their overlapping parts) 
can be quite non-trivial IMHO.

One practical (and easy to implement) step should be removal of the milestone 
"Submit MIB for IP Fast-Reroute for publication as Proposed Standard" (with the 
target date two years behind us already) from the RTGWG 
charter<https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/rtgwg/about/>. Chris/Jeff?

Regards,
Sasha

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 2:22 PM
To: Alexander Vainshtein <[email protected]>
Cc: Michael Gorokhovsky <[email protected]>; [email protected]; 
[email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: RE: Expired draft-ietf-rtgwg-ipfrr-ip-mib

That's a possibility. However for now, we have taken the approach to add FRR 
into the IGP models.
You could propose your view to the LSR list. ISIS and OSPF yang are in 
Shepherd's review state.


From: Alexander Vainshtein [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 13:42
To: LITKOWSKI Stephane OBS/OINIS
Cc: Michael Gorokhovsky; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Expired draft-ietf-rtgwg-ipfrr-ip-mib

Stephane,
Lots of thanks for a prompt response.

I have guessed that the reason for dropping the MIB draft for IP FRR was 
transition to YANG data models.
And it seems that the current versions of the OSPF and IS-IS Yang data model 
drafts cover not just FRR-related counters but also FRR-related configuration 
and state attributes.

However, this looks as duplicated definitions (with some protocol-specific 
variations). Doesn't it make more sense to place all these definitions into a 
single document?

Regards, and lots of thanks in advance,
Sasha

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From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 12:20 PM
To: Alexander Vainshtein 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Cc: Michael Gorokhovsky 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Expired draft-ietf-rtgwg-ipfrr-ip-mib

Hi Sasha,

It was decided to stop the work on this document and focus on YANG. The IPFRR 
MIB counters are part of the OSPF and ISIS yang models.

Brgds,

From: Alexander Vainshtein [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 12:46
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; LITKOWSKI Stephane OBS/OINIS
Cc: Michael Gorokhovsky; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Expired draft-ietf-rtgwg-ipfrr-ip-mib

Dear colleagues,
I have noticed that  IP FRR MIB draft (that appears as one of the WG milestones 
with November-2015 as the target date) has expired more than 2 years ago.  At 
the same time I have not seen any YANG draft that could be considered as its 
replacement.

I wonder if there are any plans to resuscitate this draft or to replace it by a 
YANG one.

Your timely feedback would be highly appreciated.

Regards, and lots of thanks in advance,
Sasha

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