Hi Robert,

I think we should work as a prerequisite on drawing the boundaries between the 
regions to separate one from another but the issue is which area belongs to 
which region, some may need to join a specific area that is difficult for them 
to do.

But regarding the added values, attacking BGP could be dangerous and the 
migration to KRP should be smooth.

Best Regards,

Khaled Omar

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From: Robert Raszuk <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 12:16:57 PM
To: Stewart Bryant <[email protected]>
Cc: Khaled Omar <[email protected]>; rtgwg <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: KRP ID Discussion.

Hi Stewart,

I hear what you are saying and politically speaking I understand your comment. 
Not that I would agree - but this does not matter.

But just thinking on the technical level I do not understand it. Are you saying 
that maybe in 2030 it would not be legally possible to create a link of some 
form (physical or virtual) and run single IGP between US and Europe ? Or 
between EMEA and Japan ? Or EMEA to Africa ?

Are you saying that global operators would have to artificially divide their 
networks into chunks ? And who would control what goes between such chunks ? 
ITU-T ?

What about new zoo of satellites just launched to precisely offer Internet 
without any geo boundaries ? Would we need to now map earth continents to orbit 
and create "fences" in the space as well ?

Sorry but not only that would be end of the Internet but possibly end of 
Google, MS, FB and other global operators and enterprises too. Or maybe the 
idea is to kill open Internet and still allow enterprises to be global and take 
most of the transit ?

Best,
R.

On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 12:02 PM Stewart Bryant 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Robert

I make no comment on the draft, but whilst what you say is currently true, the 
state of world politics seem to make the current decoupling of the various 
topologies that we enjoy at the moment less likely to continue than was the 
case a few years back.

The political actions of governments trumps (if you excuse the unfortunate pun) 
the preferences of the engineers and accountants.

ITU-T SG2 (numbering) has a list of Middle East cases of traffic routing issues 
based on politics, the EU GDPR rules, the developing countries' concern over 
traffic patterns, the actions of the current US administration, all take us in 
the direction of the application of geo and political considerations to traffic 
routing.

Regrettably, the writing is on the wall for restrictions to become normalised 
and built into the traffic planning rules, and that will push them into the 
routing system.

Stewart

> On 6 Aug 2020, at 10:15, Robert Raszuk 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> Khaled,
>
> Physical network topologies do not follow geo nor political boundaries. Any 
> solution based on the above is simply not practical.
>
> Best,
> R.

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