This version of WG charter is fine to me. Thank Alvaro for the hard work, and 
thank everyone in the lists for the comments/suggestions/discussions.

I am happy to continue any kind of technical discussion on this topic. I also 
expect that in future we can take the SAVNET as the only list. Hope colleagues 
from RTGWG mailing list who have interest in this topic can join the SAVNET 
mailing list (https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/Savnet).

Best,
Dan

-----邮件原件-----
发件人: Alvaro Retana <[email protected]> 
发送时间: 2022年5月13日 21:55
收件人: [email protected]; RTGWG <[email protected]>
抄送: Dan Li <[email protected]>
主题: SAVNET Charter (charter-savnet-00)

Hello all!

[I am cross-posting this message to the savnet and rtgwg lists, but I expect 
future threads to only be discussed on the savnet list [1].]


Thank you for the feedback and discussion related to the draft charter that Dan 
posted.  I have taken the feedback and updated it.  I pasted it below and put a 
copy online [2].

Given the interest shown at the BOF and on the list, the intent is to move 
forward with chartering a new WG.  Next week, I will start the formal process 
(beginning with the internal IESG review), which should give us enough time to 
conclude the process before IETF 114.

If you have any comments, please let me know.  Also, please use the mailing 
list for anything other than minor editorial suggestions.

Thanks!

Alvaro.


[1] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/Savnet
[2] 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18AhwpMuqMLBFvOL8Q7DWGOWlXbEqO-0BNIGXthPr5JI/edit?usp=sharing


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Charter for SAVNET Working Group

Source address validation (SAV) is one important way to mitigate source address 
spoofing attacks.  Therefore, it is desirable to deploy SAV in intra-domain and 
inter-domain networks.  However, existing SAV mechanisms like uRPF-related 
technologies may improperly permit spoofed traffic or block legitimate traffic.

The "Source Address Validation in Intra-domain and Inter-domain Networks 
(SAVNET)" working group will define protocol-independent architectures and 
procedures whose accuracy improves upon current SAV mechanisms.  Specifically, 
the SAVNET WG will define mechanisms to accurately determine valid incoming 
physical or virtual router interfaces for specific source prefixes.

The scope of the SAVNET WG includes the SAV function for both intra-domain and 
inter-domain networks and the validation of both IPv4 and IPv6 addresses.  The 
WG will address intra-domain solutions first.  SAVNET should avoid packet 
modification in the data plane.  Existing control and management plane 
protocols should be used within existing architectures to implement the SAV 
function.  Any modification of or extension to existing architectures or 
control or management plane protocols must be carried out in the working groups 
responsible for them and in coordination with this working group.

The SAVNET WG is chartered for the following list of items:

(1) Problem Statement, Use Cases, and Requirements

    This document should include an analysis of the current solutions and their
    limitations.  This item may require one document to address intra-domain
    SAV and another to address inter-domain SAV.

(2) SAVNET Architecture Documents

    This item requires one document to address intra-domain SAV and another to
    address inter-domain SAV.  Each document must describe the conditions under
    which the architecture can improve accuracy or performance with respect to
    existing SAV mechanisms without assuming pervasive adoption.  Each document
    must also include a threat model of the proposed architecture and a
    comparison to existing SAV mechanisms.

(3) Definition of protocol-independent operation and management mechanisms to
    operate and manage SAV-related configurations.


After each of the items above has reached WG consensus, a discussion about 
whether it is appropriate to continue must occur.  The discussion can consider 
topics related to the accuracy of the mechanism and the types of attacks it can 
prevent.  The WG Chairs will define the specific criteria and determine that 
rough consensus has been reached before continuing.  The WG may be rechartered 
or closed if rough consensus is not reached.


The SAVNET WG will coordinate and collaborate with other WGs as needed.
Specific interactions may include (but are not limited to):
        * lsr for OSPFv2, OSPFv3 and IS-IS extensions
        * idr for BGP extensions
        * lsvr for BGP SPF extensions
        * rift for RIFT extensions

Each of these other WGs can independently determine the applicability and 
priority of SAV to their deployments.



Milestones:

Nov 2022: Adopt the Problem Statement, Use Cases, and Requirements document

Jul 2023: Submit the Problem Statement, Use Cases, and Requirements document to
          the IESG for publication

Jul 2023: Adopt the Intra-Domain Architecture document

Mar 2024: Submit the Intra-Domain Architecture document to the IESG for
          publication

Mar 2024: Adopt operations and management for Intra-domain networks document

Mar 2024: Adopt the Inter-Domain Architecture document

Jul 2024: Submit operations and management for Intra-domain networks document
          to the IESG for publication

Nov 2024: Submit the Inter-Domain Architecture document to the IESG for
          publication

Nov 2024: Adopt operations and management for Inter-domain networks document

Mar 2025: Submit operations and management for Inter-domain networks document
          to the IESG for publication

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