Toerless,

Thanks for the feedback.

I agree that while the IRTF recommendation is generally a valid one, the main 
reason bringing this to the RTG WG is the lacking concrete place to bring it to 
instead. I'm happy for any such suggestion.

On the concrete insights, this is indeed a valid and good suggestion. Mike 
presented  at yesterday's metaverse side meeting, where the potential 
applicability of using DCS is more aligned with your overlay suggestion below, 
at least for those who may look at the metaverse more along the lines of the 
fediverse, i.e., the federation of permissionless islands providing metaverse 
experiences to their users. This honing into concrete possibilities of part of 
what we're trying to do here.

Best

Dirk




From:Toerless Eckert <[email protected]>
To:rtgwg <[email protected]>
Cc:draft-mcbride-rtgwg-bgp-blockchain 
<[email protected]>
Date:2023-03-31 10:43:25
Subject:draft-mcbride-rtgwg-bgp-blockchain thoughts

Thanks for the presentation, Dirk

No detailled technical thoughts on the subject details (ETOOMIUCHTOSWALLOW for 
now ;-)

Just thinking about how to tackle the feedback voiced on the microphone:

a) If would be great if those who on the microphone @rtgwg voiced the opinion 
that
   this should be in IRTF would then also be supportive of a routing research 
related
   research group in the IRTF of which i there is unfortunately none. [ And no: 
with past experience
   of similar topics, there is too much routing centric expertise required here 
to make
   (IMHO) DINRG applicable. ]

b) I am always a fan of experimental deployment experience, and maybe one 
useful next step
   would be to think about which domain of overlay-network BGP instances might 
be a good
   use case where one could build experimental instances not causing trouble 
for production
   services. I could think of overlays for VPNs like you can build with LISP 
(and surely other
   options) or CDN/CDNI as two example areas. I would be surprised if there 
would not be more.

   We have seen technologies proposed (still being proposed) that make a lot 
more fundamental
   changes than BGP blockchains, and they can claim success, because they 
managed to find
   an overlay network case in which they can flourish..

Cheers
    Toerless

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