Deb,

We really appreciate your review and comments to the document. Please see below 
for the resolution to your comments.

Linda

-----Original Message-----
From: Deb Cooley <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, April 9, 2023 6:28 AM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]; 
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Subject: Re: [secdir] Secdir early review of 
draft-ietf-rtgwg-net2cloud-problem-statement-22

Note:  I hit ‘send’ too early, ugh.  Please see the comments on the datatracker 
for the correct version.

Deb Cooley

> On Apr 9, 2023, at 6:59 AM, Deb Cooley via Datatracker 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> Reviewer: Deb Cooley
> Review result: Not Ready
>
> I have reviewed this document as part of the security directorate's
> ongoing effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the
> IESG.  These comments were written primarily for the benefit of the
> security area directors.  Document editors and WG chairs should treat
> these comments just like any other last call comments.
>
> Document: draft-ietf-rtgwg-net2cloud-problem-statement-22
> Reviewer: Deb Cooley
> Review Date: 2023-04-06 (early review)
>
> Please note that I know almost nothing about BGP, MPLS or routing.
>
> The summary of the review is
>
> Section 3.1, para 1, sentence 2: Grammar: 'with more variety of
> parties' could be 'with a larger variety of parties.'
>
[Linda] Per RTGarea Director suggestion, the text has been changed to the 
following. Is it Okay with you?
      Site failures include (but not limited to) a site capacity degradation or 
entire site going down. The reasons for these capacity degradations or failures 
can include: a) fiber cut for links connecting to the site or among pods within 
the site, b) cooling failures, c) insufficient backup power, d) cyber threat 
attacks, e) too many changes outside of the maintenance window, or other 
errors. Fiber-cut is not uncommon within a Cloud site or between sites.


> Section 3.1, para 2, sentence 2:  'IP tunnels', does this imply IPSec?
> Or something else?
>
[Linda] changed.

> Section 3.1, para 3:  By setting up default eBGP routes, these don't
> count as routes from an external entity?  The rest of the paragraph
> addresses the handling of exceeding the maximum route threshold?  But
> there appears to be an option to keep the BGP session?  This paragraph is 
> confusing.
[Linda] The intent is to say:
      When inbound routes exceed the maximum routes threshold for a peer, the 
current common practice is generating out of band alerts (e.g., Syslog) via 
management system to the peer, or terminating the BGP session (with cease 
notification messages [RFC 4486] being sent).  However, it would be useful if 
IETF can specify some in-band alert messages to indicate the inbound routes 
exceeding the threshold.
>
> Section 3.2, paragraph 2:  IGP?  AS?  I can't tell what this is trying to say.
>
[Linda] changed to domain.

> Section 3.2, paragraph 3:  If there is a site failure, how is the
> Cloud GW 'running fine'?  Is this GW using a different site?  BFD?
[Linda] Failures within a site like a fiber cut between two racks. So the GW is 
still running fine.

>
> Section 3.2:  Para 1 states why a site might go down.  Para 2-6
> outline the routing (?) issues that occur when a site goes down. I
> think these could be better organized.  Only the last para suggests 
> mitigations.
[Linda] changed to the "Failures within a site".

>
> Section 3.3 I'm not an expert, but isn't this an issue to any routing 
> scenario?
> Can this be combined with Section 3.6?
[Linda] Section 3.3 is to introduce the problem of multiple instances available 
at different sites for one service (such as using ANYCAST address). The site 
with the shortest distance might not be the optimal service instance as the 
site might be overloaded.
Section 3.6 is about DNS resolution at different sites.  .


>
> Section 3.4, para 3, item 1:  Is this a problem?  Or a feature?  If it
> is a problem, can you say why?
[Linda] Item 1 is meant to say:
      The difference of routing distances to multiple server instances in 
different edge Cloud is relatively small. Therefore, the edge Cloud that is the 
closest doesn’t contribute much to the performance.

>
> Section 3.5:  I would suggest moving this to Section 7.  There are a
> couple of mitigations listed - anti-DDOS, DTLS, IPSec, monitoring.
>
[Linda] Good suggestion. Changed.

> Section 3.6, last paragraph:  A globally unique name won't 'resolve
> the same way from every perspective'?  Other than being restricted
> (previous paragraph), what does this mean? If this is covered in the
> previous para, I would recommend deleting the phrase.
>
[Linda] DNSOPS director insisted on adding this paragraph to empathize that not 
all globally unique names can be resolved.


> Stopped at Section 4.
>
>
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