Jeff,
It is a new consortium, therefore, they have not yet produced spec that we
can discuss. The objective of bringing them in is two-fold:

1) discuss in details what do they plan to do and why they do not propose a
project in IEEE 802.3 and IEEE 802.1 (*) to do what they want in the
physical layer and link layer respectively? I am also not clear on  what
they plan to do in the AI/HPC transport and how it interacts with the
physical and link layers.

2) how IETF can work with them and perhaps influence their direction and
plans specially in the transport layer where they plan to develop a new
transport protocol on top of IP which advances beyond the status quo to
support the requirements of AI/HPC applications (I am actually wondering
why they do not let IETF do that work? Is it because IETF is slow?)

Hesham

(*) I recall that many years ago IEEE 802.1 created a datacenter bridging
(DCB) group to standardize protocols for converged Ethernet. The DCB group
was terminated and the last project which was congestion isolation (IEEE
802.Qcz) was done in IEEE 802.1 TSN TG. Is it the termination of the DCB
group that motivated the consortium to do the link layer standardization
outside IEEE 802.1?



On Thu, Aug 17, 2023, 11:27 PM Jeff Tantsura <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hesham,
>
> What have they produced that is worth discussing?
>
> Cheers,
> Jeff
>
> On Aug 17, 2023, at 20:49, Hesham ElBakoury <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> 
> Few companies such as Cisco, HP, Microsoft, Broadcom, AMD created Ultra
> Ethernet consortium to create standards which optimize Ethernet networks
> for AI.
>
> For more details you can refer to the consortium website:
> https://ultraethernet.org/
>
> We should invite in the next AIDC meeting a representative from this
> consortium.
>
> Thanks
> Hesham
>
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