Hi Sandy,
Thank you for the review and comments, really appreciate it.
Please see my feedback inline [Changwang].

Thanks,
Changwang


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Hi Yisong, Changwang, Mengxiao,

After reading this draft, I think it's an interesting topic.

I have some comments here:

  1.  Where is the function deployed, only leaf node or both of leaf and spine 
node?
[Changwang]
In the path-aware remote protection, there are three types of roles for a 
router:

o    Remote repair node: It has the repair path(s) and provides the remote 
protection function.

o    Local detection node: It is adjacent to the failure and detects the 
failure first. Then, it sends failure notification messages to the remote 
repair node.

o    Intermediate node: It exists only if there are multiple hops between the 
remote repair node and the local detection node. It helps deliver the failure 
notification messages from the local detection node to the remote repair node.

Therefore, both leaf and spine nodes need to be deployed and work together. For 
example, the spine node can take on the role of local detection, while the leaf 
node functions as the remote repair.

  1.  According the example you mentioned in section 3.3, in case the link 
between remote spine node and leaf node broken, how does the remote spine node 
know which spine/leaf node should be notified, and which path should be carried 
in the notification message?

[Changwang]  This involves several key issues:

a)    Forwarding: The next-hop of the route needs to include path information, 
as shown in Figure 4 of section 3.1.

b)    Control plane: Control plane routing protocols are associated with 
devices along the path. For instance, when BGP advertises a route, it carries 
information about the devices along the path.

c)    Fault notification: When a fault occurs, the notification message should 
carry information about the remote device, corresponding to the path 
information in the next-hop route. Typically, in a two-tier architecture, the 
upper-level node has a protection path, and the fault notification message is 
sent to the upstream node or triggered by traffic, which can be notified 
through the incoming interface of the traffic.
We can further discuss this in more depth.



  1.  The topology depolyed in DC which used for AI/HPC may be 3-level or 
5-level fat-tree, if there are many pods in the DC, there are plenty of routes 
and paths in the network, right? How do you consider the scaling problem?

[Changwang] In a multi-tier architecture, the upper-level node typically has 
ECMP protection paths, so the notification message only needs to traverse one 
hop.

If the upper-level node does not have a protection path, it can continue to 
propagate the notification upward.



Thanks,

Sandy


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From: YisongLiu <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
To: rtgwg <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>;
Date: 2024年02月26日 08:47
Subject: FW: New Version Notification for 
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Hi Everyone,

We have just submitted a draft on the rapid switchover of remote fault 
perception. The link for this draft is: 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-liu-rtgwg-path-aware-remote-protection/

The current main protection technologies include local protection through FRR, 
such as TI-LFA protection, and end-to-end protection through multi-path 
protection.
In specific network scenarios, such as a spine-leaf two-layer architecture, 
TI-LFA cannot be deployed, and even if it is deployed, traffic will still loop 
during a fault. Therefore, this draft proposes a mechanism for rapid switchover 
that is aware of remote paths. By associating the next hops with remote path 
information at the forwarding plane, the local end can be quickly notified to 
switch in the event of remote fault, achieving fault switchover in 
milliseconds, or even microseconds.

We welcome your feedback. If you have any questions or comments, please feel 
free to let us know.
Best Regards
Yisong


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Name: draft-liu-rtgwg-path-aware-remote-protection
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Title: Path-aware Remote Protection Framework
Date: 2024-02-23
Group: Individual Submission
Pages: 8
URL: 
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Abstract:

This document describes the framework of path-aware remote
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