Tony:

+1 to Adrian – This is good work.  The text continues to improve

On the grid idea, have you done theoretical or simulations to look at the grid 
model?  Grid for this problem and the striping seemed like a good approach to 
add this concept.

Sue

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Hi Adrian, > First: I think this is good work. Thanks, much appreciated. > I 
don't know how we document this to > experiment with it. I suspect it needs 
some pretty sophisticated simulation > because
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Hi Adrian,



> First: I think this is good work.





Thanks, much appreciated.





> I don't know how we document this to

> experiment with it. I suspect it needs some pretty sophisticated simulation

> because the rate of deployment is going to be such that the operators will

> not want to experiment in live networks. It seems (to me) to be in scope for

> RTGWG and is something that we should seek to stablise.



We would really need some realistic basis from one of the satellite operators, 
otherwise, we’re just making up garbage.



> Have you thought about how well the TE mechanisms will scale? Although the

> orbits are well-known (plus or minus meteor strikes), and although (as you

> say) a ground station only needs to know about its overhead stripes, and

> although you are not considering transit in this architecture, it seems to

> me that the computations will be more complicated being time-based, and I'm

> not sure that they are easily stable when pre-computed.



One approach might be to compute the TE on an abstraction of the topology. For 
example, suppose that the topology can be roughly characterized as a grid. 
Flows can then be optimized onto an abstract grid and then satellites can be 
assigned process through grid positions. This saves total ground-zero 
recomputation.



> I also wonder, given how constrained ISLs may be, about the need for

> "centralised" computation to ensure that load is properly balanced.



I don’t see much alternative. The gateway has the topology and the traffic 
demand.  While the gateway doesn’t need to be a single CPU, distributing the 
data much more widely doesn’t seem advantageous. Doing path computation in the 
satellites itself seems like it would require some very expensive resources.



T



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