Hi Xiao Min,

Thank you for submitting the draft. Below are some quick comments after I read 
it.

PFC aims to achieve lossless ethernet within DCN, so I guess the propagated 
back pressure pause packet is also intended for lossless WAN. But the WAN has 
much longer path span and the latency could be tens to hundreds of 
milliseconds. The buffer headroom required could be primitively large.

PFC is applied for a whole priority queue on a link which could include many IP 
flows from many paths. Sending pause packets for each of them could have a 
large overhead and bandwidth impact.

PFC has many negative side effects such of HoL blocking, PFC propagation, 
potential deadlock. That's why it's only used as the last resort when e2e 
congestion control can't make it. Extending it to WAN could only exacerbate the 
situation. The pause could paralyze the entire WAN. Therefore, I think the 
mechanism should be meticulously evaluated and tested before considering the 
standardization.

Cheers,
Haoyu
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Sent: Friday, February 27, 2026 12:19 AM
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Subject: [rtgwg] Congestion Notification for Pause

Dear all,

A new document draft-xiao-rtgwg-congestion-notification-for-pause-01 has been 
submitted. Link as below.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-xiao-rtgwg-congestion-notification-for-pause-01

This draft defines the IP Pause message which is analogous to Ethernet PFC 
frame.
Except for the different layers, the IP Pause message is distinct from the PFC 
frame in that, the IP Pause messages are all sent from one node (the egress PE) 
while the PFC frames may be sent by multiple nodes along the path with stepwise 
backpressure.

Looking forward to your review and comments.

Cheers,
Xiao Min
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